[PGT] Devils 4 - Flames 3 - OTL

[ForeverFlameFan]

Terrible game by Mackey.

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

If Darryl is benching guys, Backlund should be one of the last guys to go and Huberdeau, quite frankly, should be first.

Benching Huberdeau isn't wise. Considering his circumstance, new surroundings and griping the stick to tight, the only way he is going to get out of this is by playing through it.

I think benching Backlund had less to do with performance and more a message to the team, could he have picked another player to send that message? Sure, but he knows Backs won't be phased by it.

Regardless nobody played well tonight except for Markstrom.

[D as in David]

You'd be hard-pressed to believe this was a team coached by Darryl Sutter the way they've played the last six or seven games. Still too many giveaways, lazy plays and mental mistakes. Hope the long home stand excuse was the reason because a poor record on this trip is going to make this board a hard place to visit.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Oh yeah? Tonnes of home games and more time to practice is a massive disadvantage?

Come on. You pretend to be smarter than this.

in october the oilers media, your propaganda ministers themselves said during a segment that ideally you would want to be at home for no more than 3 or 4 before getting on the road so the team could bond as a group and get into a rhythm (discussing the timing of the first oilers road trip)

apparently your own people disagree with your argument

in the dog days of the schedule once you have done your share of traveling and games under your belt yes a long homestand is probably helpful . different case with opening a season as a newly formed group trying to mesh

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

It's a good schedule so far for the Flames.

Home games are better than road games. That is borne out by superior home winning percentages year after year.

Hating a schedule doesn't really make sense.

Tough to say, over time you win more at home than on the road but I’d wager that teams actually start to see more losses at the tail end of long home stands.

In the end you okay 41 at home and 41 on the road and all this start means is a ####tier schedule later on.

Lots of people have hated this schedule from the start and for good reason IMO.

Too many long breaks early in a season. Really no travel which I think isn’t great for a new roster. They should be rested but they haven’t been able to find rhythm to their game which is showing on the ice.

Plus their opposition record is really strong so far and not many easy games.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

It's a good schedule so far for the Flames.

Home games are better than road games. That is borne out by superior home winning percentages year after year.

Hating a schedule doesn't really make sense.

Playing at home might be better than playing on the road but too many games at home isn't a good thing either. You need a balance of both.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Oh yeah? Tonnes of home games and more time to practice is a massive disadvantage?



Come on. You pretend to be smarter than this.

That is not what I said, but I shouldn't be surprised that you are too dense to pick up what I am putting down.

It's not necessarily a disadvantage, but since players are human beings, when they are stuck at home for so long and with so many days between games, life can get in the way. It is not much different from spending a full month on the road. I suspect most teams perform best when they have a regular mix of both. The point here being that a home-heavy schedule spread over so many days most likely does not exhibit the best a team can be, and can lead to developing bad habits, which is precisely what we have seen here.

But, why am I explaining this to you? You're just going to miss the point and say something dumb about "TEH OILERS!!!!"

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[Karl]

So, who was good for the Flames tonight? I got Kadri, Zadorov and Toffoli.

Maybe Lewis & Ritchie too.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Karl

So, who was good for the Flames tonight? I got Kadri, Zadorov and Toffoli.



Maybe Lewis & Ritchie too.

Markstrom was good. Also Hanifin.

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[CGY12]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Oh yeah. Tonnes of home games and more time to practice is a massive disadvantage?

Come on. You pretend to be smarter than this.

New team, new faces, the road can often help build camaraderie. This home stand was about 3 games to long in my opinion.

The Oilers talked about getting on the road being a good thing after a shaky 6 game home stand to start the season.

Many more variables to consider when trying to determine if its a good thing or bad. Its not black and white like you make it out to be.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Karl

So, who was good for the Flames tonight? I got Kadri, Zadorov and Toffoli.

Maybe Lewis & Ritchie too.

Coleman was good too, maybe actually their best player tonight.

I’d actually give the four dmen a lot of credit playing short all night, the Stone injury really threw off the rotation in the first though with all three goals with Mackey on the ice with a new partner.

Hanifin and Andersson continue to struggle a bit though. More so Andersson who has been a tire fire defensively imo.

Weegar makes some risky plays with the puck but generally he pulls them off and continues to have strong underlying metrics.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by PuckSlap

For anyone who think sutter should or will be fired, I don’t think so. It’s not tres team anymore..

Is there anyone who thinks Sutter is on some kind of hot seat right now? Really?

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Inferno

Playing at home might be better than playing at home but too many games at home isn't a good thing either. You need a balance of both.

Call me crazy. Or call me a homer. I think playing at home is better than playing at home.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by CGY12

New team, new faces, the road can often help build camaraderie. This home stand was about 3 games to long in my opinion.

The Oilers talked about getting on the road being a good thing after a shaky 6 game home stand to start the season.

Many more variables to consider when trying to determining if its a good thing or bad. Its not black and white like you make it out to be.

yeah home doesn't always imply more winable games by default . everything is situational, home or away

toward the end of a lengthy homestand like this over a month with breaks interwoven? you aren't rooming together and bonding and you have home distractions competing with hockey especially with the multi day breaks .. it's just not an ideal situation for any team trying to stay fresh and focused .. seems like a fertile situation for complacency

getting on the road will help focus the group I think

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Is there anyone who thinks Sutter is on some kind of hot seat right now? Really?

On a related note, is there anyone who thinks this is somehow not Treliving's team?

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[Mathgod]

Been quite a while since I've heard Robert phone into the postgame show.

[nieuwy-89]

Schedule, injuries, reffing … all just excuses. Team needs to play better. Period.

[SuperMatt18]

I don’t think it should be overstated how much Kylington-Tanev mean to this team, and the impact missing both has on how the defensive pairings slot.

They struggled last season when one of Tanev or Kylington were out, let alone both.

Kylington-Tanev
Hanifin-Andersson
Zadorov - Weegar

That would be elite. Hanifin-Andersson would have more protection, and Zadorov-Weegar have actually been really good as a pair (67.3 xGF)

But suddenly

Hanifin-Andersson
Zadorov-Weegar
Mackey-Stone

Looks like a weakness. Hanifin-Andersson asked to do too much heavy lifting, and that 3rd pairing is not good.

This is why you couldn’t move a dman for a forward, defensive depth is thin after the top 7 it seems.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Been quite a while since I've heard Robert phone into the postgame show.

the guy that says patty at the end of every sentence ?

[activeStick]

The coach speaks. "We've played 9 games in a month. If you don't have energy..." Looch, Rooney and Backlund were all benched.

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