[Signing] Canucks sign JT Miller to extension (7 years, $8 mil AAV)

[Hockey_Ninja]

d_phaneuf and Blaster86 are the resident Nucks fans on this board. No closeting going on with them

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Lindholm and Kadri probably manage 70 (if Kadri will be on the first powerplay). Maybe Mangiapane if he’s elevated to line 1.

I just don't see Kadri as a 70 point player. Before last year his career high was 61 points and that is with getting lots of powerplay time with the Leafs. Now he could just be breaking out in his 30s unlike most players but I think he will likely revert back to the norm. A good 50 point producer with an edge.

As for Mangiapane he could be that player. But I am wondering if he will be able to produce as effectively being the main center of attention unlike last year where he was behind the best first line in the league.

It is possible but I think that the previous take was one where everything about the Canucks was bad and everything about the Flames was great.

Then again I am predominantly a Canucks fan.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Every young player has a lot to prove - in his 4 years in the league, Petersson is a 0.9 PPG player. He’s scored 27, 27, 10 and 32 goals. You can work with that.

The Canucks need to add to that group, not subtract for more middling picks.

Their two closest rivals both made it to the second round - one has two top-5 players in the world, the other had an off-season for the ages.

They don’t want to be left behind, they want to be in the fight.

This isn’t a video game. You have sponsors and suite holders, season tickets holders and casual fans to appease, and if you’re going to trade your leading scorer, the Flames made it unacceptable to trade him for anything less than a star in return.

If no one was offering that, you pay what it costs to keep your 99 point #1C in town and see what happens.

Cool story bro. That's nice that the Canucks were able to keep themselves visible in our rearviews and "keep pace". Cute. I'm happy for them.

I have no idea who/what you're arguing against, but you tell em!

Have to give it to the resident whale folk, they sure are nicely poised for bubble team mediocrity for years to come.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

everything about the Canucks is bad and everything about the Flames is great.

I mean, you're not wrong.


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[activeStick]

Decent signing for a team that is trying to contend. Problem is, the Canucks roster has some serious problems starting at D. Luke Schenn as your #1 RD is a bad time.

[Johnny Makarov]

Canucks will be lucky to still be in playoff contention by early February.

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Canucks will be lucky to still be in playoff contention by early February.

I think they're all but guaranteed to fight for that third spot in the Pacific with LA. While their D is trash outside of Hughes and OEL, they have a really deep top 6 and elite goalie.

Anaheim and SJ are rebuilding, Seattle did absolutely nothing this offseason that makes me think they'll be a threat, and Vegas doesn't have a starting goalie or apparently a healthy culture.

I'd rather all three Canadian teams made it as well. The US had their fun for decades.

[djsFlames]

If they're fighting with LA for 3rd, does that make the alberta teams the defacto #1 and 2 in the Pacific again?

There's always some kind of fluctuation year to year with this division. I feel like somewhere things will backfire and somewhere there will be a resurgence that we don't see coming.

I'd love for the goaltending to sink the Oil this year with their Campbell/Skinner gamble.

[Vinny01]

I am surprised that Miller stayed in Vancouver. This is a fine signing in my opinion as Miller has been a stud in Vancouver all 3 years he has been there. I am interested in how the Canucks do next year because this is clearly a signing that means they want to win now. Not sure how they keep Horvat when it is all said and done with this contract and Petterson making big money up the middle.

If the Flames didn’t get Kadri and traded for Miller and gave him this contract I would have been fine with it. Not sure it makes sense for Vancouver but if they are improved next year and a playoff team then it will looks good

[Dragomir]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

I just don't see Kadri as a 70 point player. Before last year his career high was 61 points and that is with getting lots of powerplay time with the Leafs. Now he could just be breaking out in his 30s unlike most players but I think he will likely revert back to the norm. A good 50 point producer with an edge.

As for Mangiapane he could be that player. But I am wondering if he will be able to produce as effectively being the main center of attention unlike last year where he was behind the best first line in the league.

It is possible but I think that the previous take was one where everything about the Canucks was bad and everything about the Flames was great.

Then again I am predominantly a Canucks fan.

Everything about Vancouver(the city and the NHL team) is generally terrible.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Dragomir

Everything about Vancouver(the city and the NHL team) is generally terrible.

Hmmmm…and you’re an Edmonton fan?

“You can see the speck in your friend's eye, but you don't notice the log in your own eye.”

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Dragomir

Everything about Vancouver(the city and the NHL team) is generally terrible.

Ok... the team is definently suspect but the city itself is actually fairly good. Better than Edmonton and Calgary is a good city but it's no Vancouver.

[Erick Estrada]

I see a lot of headlines that the Canucks are in "win-now" mode. How often is this ever said about organizations that have missed the playoffs in consecutive seasons? Don't teams in win-now mode actually make the playoffs? Weird.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Ok... the team is definently suspect but the city itself is actually fairly good. Better than Edmonton and Calgary is a good city but it's no Vancouver.

You’re right. The sun actually shines here in the winter…

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

I just don't see Kadri as a 70 point player. Before last year his career high was 61 points and that is with getting lots of powerplay time with the Leafs. Now he could just be breaking out in his 30s unlike most players but I think he will likely revert back to the norm. A good 50 point producer with an edge.

As for Mangiapane he could be that player. But I am wondering if he will be able to produce as effectively being the main center of attention unlike last year where he was behind the best first line in the league.

It is possible but I think that the previous take was one where everything about the Canucks was bad and everything about the Flames was great.

Then again I am predominantly a Canucks fan.

In his last 4 seasons with the Leafs he was 9th among their forwards for PP time per game.

I do not expect a repeat of last years numbers but he will be better than 50 pts playing behind Lindholm but ahead of Backlund on the depth chart. I mean his career average is 57 points per 82, and that was with limited ice time because of the depth at C on the teams he was on.

And Mangiapane will be the main center of attention? Huberdeau/Lindholm might have a say in that.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Cool story bro. That's nice that the Canucks were able to keep themselves visible in our rearviews and "keep pace". Cute. I'm happy for them.

I have no idea who/what you're arguing against, but you tell em!

Have to give it to the resident whale folk, they sure are nicely poised for bubble team mediocrity for years to come.

Forgive me for talking hockey in a hockey forum.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I see a lot of headlines that the Canucks are in "win-now" mode. How often is this ever said about organizations that have missed the playoffs in consecutive seasons? Don't teams in win-now mode actually make the playoffs? Weird.

Didn't realize that the N. Saskatchewan river ran through Vancouver too.

They're probably looking at the Boudreau portion of last season and thinking that's the Canucks now. Except even under BB when the playoffs were in reach they tailed off. And it's not like the WC teams weren't leaving the door wide open them.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I don't think they're in "Win Now" mode, they're in "Make the Playoffs" mode. Which they were already in when Benning was there.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Yup, Make the Playoffs Mode, which I can’t kill them for. Similar to the Flames when the Johnny thing went down, I did not see the scenario of burning it to the ground. Neither team was likely to out suck the Arizona/Chicagos of the world. Miller is a good player on a good contract. The big difference to the Flames is that is there really a path to contend? At least the Flames have the recent regular season history to make the case to go for it. Not so much for the Nucks. Not impossible, but you would need to see Miller sustain along with big jumps from Petterson and the Ruskies.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Not with that blue line. In fairness, in the playoffs a hot goalie is the main thing you want and Demko is good, and the only time this core has been in a postseason literally all of their top guys stepped up their games, but I would think the absolute ceiling is winning two rounds. One round would be a good result, even. But that's all playoff revenue regardless.