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Old 10-30-2021, 05:30 PM   #101
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Change Monahan and Dube to Lucic and Zadorov and add the next 4 firsts

All in baby
Actually though, I’m super in to this now

Lucic
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Valimaki
Pelletier
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Eichel
22/23/24/25 7ths (need to keep pick total)

Do it do it do it

Would prefer to give up the 26 first instead of valimaki if Buffalo would be cool with that
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Old 10-30-2021, 05:34 PM   #103
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After reading some golden knights pundit remarks on the old Twitter box. I can't see how they get Eichel. At all. It make no sense at all from any perspective:

https://twitter.com/SinBinVegas/stat...LaGp-XuMg&s=19
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I just want one season where Vegas doesn't try to go get the new shiny thing. That leads them to making moves that they probably shouldn't be making to begin with.
Amusing to see the exact opposite of the complaint so many posters have about the Flames.
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Someone nobody ever talks about but perhaps could help Buffalo, Backlund. If they want a responsible two way player, why not him?
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this is the biggest #### tease in the history of nhl trades. I won't believe eichel is going anywhere until it actually happens
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Actually though, I’m super in to this now

Lucic
Zadorov
Valimaki
Pelletier
22/23/24/25 firsts (22 and 23 lottery protected, if Flames win lottery then Buf gets that year’s second plus the next year’s second)

For

Eichel
22/23/24/25 7ths (need to keep pick total)

Do it do it do it

Would prefer to give up the 26 first instead of valimaki if Buffalo would be cool with that
Why would Buffalo want Lucic and why would Lucic waive his NMC to go there?
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Monny, Mangi, Pelletier, 2023 1st. That's my guess. I'm sticking to it.
Mangi has to be Dube or no go
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Why would Buffalo want Lucic and why would Lucic waive his NMC to go there?
Only reason Buffalo would want Lucic is that they have to take back salary to stay above the cap floor, and by the time they need the cap room for other purposes, his contract will be done.

Why Lucic would waive, you've got me there.
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Lucic would waive because he’s a good dude.
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Old 10-30-2021, 05:51 PM   #110
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Lucic would waive because he’s a good dude.
The best. Which is why that would suck.
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Lucic would waive because he’s a good dude.
Waive and retire? Wasn't he ready to retire 2 seasons ago midseason.
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I am probably in a huge minority here… but is anyone else worried about giving up a crapload of assets for an injured player and a risk of chemistry which may not work well here?
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I am probably in a huge minority here… but is anyone else worried about giving up a crapload of assets for an injured player and a risk of chemistry which may not work well here?
You are absolutely not in the minority. I mean you're probably not in the majority either, but for sure not in the minority. Or even in the middle. Does that help at all?
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Someone nobody ever talks about but perhaps could help Buffalo, Backlund. If they want a responsible two way player, why not him?
Because he’s not in their window. He’s barely in our window. I love the guy but he’s probably only this player for 2-3 more years at best.
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I am probably in a huge minority here… but is anyone else worried about giving up a crapload of assets for an injured player and a risk of chemistry which may not work well here?
No I’m excited for once we are not trading from a position of weakness.
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I am probably in a huge minority here… but is anyone else worried about giving up a crapload of assets for an injured player and a risk of chemistry which may not work well here?
Yup.

Had you asked this before the season I'm sure many people wouldn't have cared about chemistry. Now? There is concern but it's worth it.
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Old 10-30-2021, 05:56 PM   #117
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I am probably in a huge minority here… but is anyone else worried about giving up a crapload of assets for an injured player and a risk of chemistry which may not work well here?
I'm in the same boat. 50m gamble and the loss of some great assets.

I dont want Eichel but it feels like it's destiny at this point that it's going to happen.

I want Vegas to get him, I want them to live in their cap hell for doing so.
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After reading some golden knights pundit remarks on the old Twitter box. I can't see how they get Eichel. At all. It make no sense at all from any perspective:

https://twitter.com/SinBinVegas/stat...LaGp-XuMg&s=19

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Old 10-30-2021, 05:57 PM   #119
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I am probably in a huge minority here… but is anyone else worried about giving up a crapload of assets for an injured player and a risk of chemistry which may not work well here?
I’m 92% sure our current team is not a cup contender.

I say go for it. Take the chance. It’s only sports. It’s supposed to be fun.
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I am probably in a huge minority here… but is anyone else worried about giving up a crapload of assets for an injured player and a risk of chemistry which may not work well here?
It really depends on what the deal is. There are ways this can work without upsetting the chemistry too much (ie Monahan and high value futures). But I do worry about losing our best players best friend. But we also gain a new best player and hopefully a new best friend!

It’s unfortunate that Monny has made himself expendable (his injury scenario obviously a factor). IMO, he has all the tools to be just as good as an Eichel, but it hasn’t worked.

If you start digging into The Mangis and the Tkachuks, and the Kylingtons/Hanafins I start to get a little worried. Because it defeats the purpose of adding Eichel now.

This is all notwithstanding his injury/recovery. So yeah I’m a little worried. But also would be excited to see the outcome, and that’s what sports is about. If nothing else, it’ll be entertaining.
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