[News] Flames name Kirk Muller as Associate Coach and Cail MacLean as assistant coach

[Rejean31]

Jordan Sigalet really is the Teflon man!! How many coaching purges has this guy survived? I don’t get it.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by Rejean31

Jordan Sigalet really is the Teflon man!! How many coaching purges has this guy survived? I don’t get it.

I can only like this once, but i'd like to make it infinite likes

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Not a huge fan of Muller as a coach, but I do like the idea of making some changes and reaching out to someone outside the Flames system.

[Toonage]

Sigalet isn't the goalie coach anymore. I wasn't a fan of how the goaltending looked under him but he isn't in that role any longer. He isn't instructing the goalies. We can let this go now. Labarbera is the man now, and was all of last season.

[Robbob]

It always gives me chuckle when Sigalet's name is throwed out there. Especially now that he is just heading the goalie department. I recall Hrudey mentioning that Talbot gave a lot of credit to Sigalet for helping find his game again. Unfortunately Minny got the spoils there.

[Bleeding Red]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Sigalet isn't the goalie coach anymore. I wasn't a fan of how the goaltending looked under him but he isn't in that role any longer. He isn't instructing the goalies. We can let this go now. Labarbera is the man now, and was all of last season.

Sigalet may not be working with the goalies day-to-day or traveling with the team, but they don't work in a vacuum.

The "Goalie Department" is run by the top guy, his philosophy goes, what he says holds sway in how Flames goalies are chosen, preferred style of play, how they practice, etc. Labarbera defers to his boss - Sigalet.

(the PP coach may want 4 forwards out there all the time, but if Sutter wants 2 d-men, who wins that argument? Similarly if Lebarbera wants the goalies playing more butterfly style, but Sigalet wants them square in the net, who wins that argument?)

Bezos might not oversee every warehouse worker, but you can bet he has a say in their jobs.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Bleeding Red

Sigalet may not be working with the goalies day-to-day or traveling with the team, but they don't work in a vacuum.

The "Goalie Department" is run by the top guy, his philosophy goes, what he says holds sway in how Flames goalies are chosen, preferred style of play, how they practice, etc. Labarbera defers to his boss - Sigalet.

(the PP coach may want 4 forwards out there all the time, but if Sutter wants 2 d-men, who wins that argument? Similarly if Lebarbera wants the goalies playing more butterfly style, but Sigalet wants them square in the net, who wins that argument?)

Bezos might not oversee every warehouse worker, but you can bet he has a say in their jobs.

Bezos isn't on the warehouse floor most days either.

Point being, we can probably stop complaining about the guy now.

[Strange Brew]

Sigalet must have influence on how goalies play, who is drafted or acquired and how they are developed. Doesn't he in fact have ultimate accountability for that?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Rejean31

Jordan Sigalet really is the Teflon man!! How many coaching purges has this guy survived? I don’t get it.

The fact that he has survived another one (although I don't know why this would be surprising, since Sigalet is no longer the goalie coach) pretty clearly indicates that he is most likely not a source of the team's problems.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Sigalet must have influence on how goalies play, who is drafted or acquired and how they are developed. Doesn't he in fact have ultimate accountability for that?

I think he taken more of a step back from the hands on aspect and running goalie scouting.

I'm sure there's mandates and planning he does with Labarbera but the minutia and day to day is all Labarberas.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

The fact that he has survived another one (although I don't know why this would be surprising, since Sigalet is no longer the goalie coach) pretty clearly indicates that he is most likely not a source of the team's problems.

Not the team's problems. But goaltending has been a source of the team's problems and I don't know how he doesn't have some accountability for that.

Yes he survived numerous coaching changes although his work for the Flames NHL squad has been under one GM essentially. I'm not ready to concede this amounts to conclusive evidence he is good at his job.

Garth Snow was an NHL GM for 12 years.

[Stanley]

I see we're still bitching and whining about Sigalet are we?

Man that's getting old...get over it.

[bdubbs]

Originally Posted by Stanley

I see we're still bitching and whining about Sigalet are we?

Man that's getting old...get over it.

Yeah, Sigalet it go, people...

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

The fact that he has survived another one (although I don't know why this would be surprising, since Sigalet is no longer the goalie coach) pretty clearly indicates that he is most likely not a source of the team's problems.

Can we really trust the organization to properly identify internal problems given the lack of success over the last 30 years?

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

The fact that he has survived another one (although I don't know why this would be surprising, since Sigalet is no longer the goalie coach) pretty clearly indicates that he is most likely not a source of the team's problems.

And just what does the team’s inability to identify and fix its own problems indicate?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Can we really trust the organization to properly identify internal problems given the lack of success over the last 30 years?

I certainly think there is good reason to raise this question, but after three months on the job I would also think that Darryl Sutter is party to these decisions. There is a fresh set of eyes in place that most definitely has the ear of his GM and ownership, and it is safe to assume that he is on board with whatever is ongoing in the goaltending department if there are no changes made.

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[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Can we really trust the organization to properly identify internal problems given the lack of success over the last 30 years?

Honestly don't have a single issue in what you said, but I can't imagine living under a cloud like that.

The Flames haven't had the same management or owners really for 30 years. You have to shorten your time cycle and just look at what we have now

Do you have any hope for better days left in you? I'm just too positive, and/or indifferent to live in such a depressing head space.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Sigalet must have influence on how goalies play, who is drafted or acquired and how they are developed. Doesn't he in fact have ultimate accountability for that?

- Well he had Smith going gangbusters in the Colorado series;
- He turned Rittich into an "all star";
- He helped Talbot find his game again.

He's no Ian Clarke or Mitch Korn though but there's only two of those guys around.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Ramo also credits Sigalet with helping him turn his game around in that last season. Remember when the 'three headed goalie monster' season, after which he was sent down to the AHL for a stint? Sigalet worked with him, and when he was finally recalled he put up a what? .930 until he got injured?



I have never really understood the irrational blame that Sigalet gets. Either way, I think it is time to move on from blaming him for anything any longer.

[Freeway]

The Flames have also kept head amateur scout Tod Button around through several GM change-overs. There's probably a reason for that.