[PGT] Flames lose 7-3 to Edmonton...

[dino7c]

Third line was the worst line by a country mile

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

okay yeah, but they were down 2-0 early because of Lucic and the PKer who didn't clear it when he had the chance.

Gaudreau and Monahan were not on the ice for any goals against, and ended the night +1

Yippee

They are expected to score as our highest paid players.....

Is that too much? Or just showing up is enough?

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Third line was the worst line by a country mile

Yup. Line was -3. Backlund and lucic deserve assists on a few oiler goals directly

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Lucic has been doing that all year...10 plus goals are directly his fault.

A bit of an exaggeration - I think maybe 5. There’s a few giveaway monsters on the team. Johnny had a worse one tonight from the same spot, but got lucky. Andersson has a ton, Backlund, Tkachuk, Monahan. It’s maybe the high IQ guys trying stuff, actually now that I think about it. You don’t see it with less creative guys.

[getoverit]

Tough game for a flames fan. It sux.

I would put tkatchuk back with Backlund and see if they could re-create some chemistry.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Yup. Line was -3. Backlund and lucic deserve assists on a few oiler goals directly

Yup and -4 before garbage time

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Yippee

They are expected to score as our highest paid players.....

Is that too much? Or just showing up is enough?

well, they did score, and ended the night with 1 goal for and none against

Backlund's line was on the ice for 4 ES goals against

Seems a bit odd to be directing the angst on Monahan's line, given those facts

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Yippee

They are expected to score as our highest paid players.....

Is that too much? Or just showing up is enough?

Highest paid players: Tkachuk, Gio, Gaudreau, Monahan, Markstrom, Backlund, and Lucic.

I would argue that not a single one of these 7 players is fully earning their paycheck based on their stats. Some might say Gaudreau (24 points in 30 games) and Markstrom (90.3%) are.

The 8th and 9th highest paid players, Hanafin and Lindholm, definitely are. In fact, most of the other players are.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

it was the weakest of the bunch - knocked a stick out of the hand of someone holding it loosely with one hand

I hate this call when it’s a ticky tack tap.

When I grew up my coach would tell me to hold on to my damn stick.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Also I can’t wait to see Darryl’s press availability

[bubbsy]

I find it interesting how sutter keeps stating this team doesn't have the high end stars to play anything but a strong checking game. I think most hockey fans would agree, but I do wonder how much the flames top forwards feel about that (gaudreau, monahan, tkachuk, specifically).

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by flylock shox

Not as badly played a game as the score would have one believe, but I can't shake the feeling that - even with Sutter - this team is primed for - and would benefit from - some serious roster changes.


They just strike me as a team that reached its zenith a couple of years ago, plateaued, and will only trend slowly downward now. Better to cash in the chips they have and buy into a new table before they find themselves skint.


The Flames have lots of nice pieces, and I'm still optimistic that with the Seattle disruption and the flat salary cap that there are some good deals to be made out there. Two or three major changes might be all it takes to rebuild this team in the right direction.

At the very least it’s time to try something new. This core has been given a long leash and has proved that it’s not up to the task. At some point you just have to accept reality and realize this isn’t a Stanley cup contender or even a playoff contender.

The pieces are there to acquire some nice assets but I don’t know if Tre is the guy to do it. This roster has declined over the last several seasons and even casual observers could admit to that.

Bring in a Dean Lombardi and let him and Darryl construct this team with their vision. Change is definitely required and that should continue with the GM’s position.

My biggest concern with this team is that it lacks a real threat. Complimentary pieces are required but you can’t have an entire lineup of 2nd and 3rd liners. I really wish it would have worked with this group but it is what it is. Time to move on.

[Mathgod]

Pretty sure Sutter was inaccurate with his claim that he's never pulled a goalie. https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/sjs-v...me_state=final

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Back2Back

Sometimes you just have to tip your cap to greatness and move on. McDavid and Draisaitl are purely greatness, best and second best player on the planet.

No shame getting dominated by the Oilers, yet again.

Imagine having 4 first overall picks in the last 10 years, multiple other picks in the top 5, potentially the two best players in the game currently, and yet having zero....yes ZERO chance of winning Lord Stanley.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Pretty sure Sutter was inaccurate with his claim that he's never pulled a goalie. https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/sjs-v...me_state=final

The penalties in the box score makes me miss real hockey.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

I hate this call when it’s a ticky tack tap.

When I grew up my coach would tell me to hold on to my damn stick.

Yup. If someone knocked the stick out of our hands, it was an embarrassment.

Now pros let it happen to draw a penalty. The fact that the refs call it, is the new embarrassment.

[Back2Back]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

No, a troll. Reported as such.

I'm not a troll i'm an objective Oilers fan.

If the Flames are good enough to be in the playoffs, i'm hoping for a BOA, It would be great for both fanbases.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Back2Back

I'm not a troll i'm an objective Oilers fan.

If the Flames are good enough to be in the playoffs, i'm hoping for a BOA, It would be great for both fanbases.

Only trolls are real out of those two choices. Bye.

[1Nite]

Originally Posted by Back2Back

I'm not a troll i'm an objective Oilers fan.

If the Flames are good enough to be in the playoffs, i'm hoping for a BOA, It would be great for both fanbases.

Home come you didn't crawl out from under your bridge after the last game to congratulate the Flames.

[Back2Back]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Only trolls are real out of those two choices. Bye.

Looks like I can't convince you I'm not a troll so have a great night bud.