[Rumour] UPD: Markstrom down to Edmonton or Calgary. Dreger says Oilers out

[Husky]

I have no issue with ryan centering the 3rd line. Not flashy. But quietly gets the job done.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by husky

i have no issue with ryan centering the 3rd line. Not flashy. But quietly gets the job done.

Bennett!!!!!

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Vancouver radio guys saying the Oilers are going hard for Markstrom. That would suck

Going hard with a 7x$3M + DVDs + West Ed Pool passes + Smith’s used gear + use of Gene’s tanning bed + playing with McDavid + beat up lived in Ice District condo

[Futzee]

I don't want him if he comes with a NMC. We have enough to figure out with protections for the Seattle draft. Let's not lose another piece to add an expensive risky goalie on a long term deal.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Futzee

I don't want him if he comes with a NMC. We have enough to figure out with protections for the Seattle draft. Let's not lose another piece to add an expensive risky goalie on a long term deal.

How is this even an issue for the Flames? I thought goalies are counted separately and not included in the protection list for skaters?

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by 868904

How is this even an issue for the Flames? I thought goalies are counted separately and not included in the protection list for skaters?

Agreed. If the expansion draft was farther away then maybe, but as it stands, we'd be protecting our newly signed UFA goalie with or without an NMC

I'd like to avoid an NMC in principal, but if that becomes the difference between getting him at a good price vs having to overpay or not get it at all, then give it to him

[868904]

If you are worried about term and how Markstrom will age, then the best bet for an elite goalie is Kuemper, who has two more years at a good cap hit. But there is an asset cost to acquire and you are playing this goalie carousel game again soon; however, at least the timing fits with the current core and fully establishes the two year win window.

Ideally, the Canucks trade for OEL has Demko as the centrepiece and the Canucks re-sign Markstrom. With Demko in the fold, Arizona is more inclined to just let Kuemper go a little cheaper.

Honestly, I’d be ok with trading a decent asset right now like Mangiapane for Kuemper. I’m not sure the Flames would be able to keep Mangiapane long term anyways. I’m less inclined to trade the 2021 first because that could be a long term asset for the Flames.

[Vinny01]

Burke on the radio thinks that Markstrom is going to leave Vancouver because they simply can’t guarantee he gets protected in the expansion draft. He also thinks Markstrom signs somewhere tomorrow.

Apparently on TSN radio in Edmonton the Oilers are going to offer 6-7 year term but not as much AAV. Flames have the ability to go term and money so that should put us as the front runner.


Burke also mentioned out of all his NHL stops he liked living in Calgary the most and did a nice sell job for why it is such a great city to live in

[btimbit]

Kuemper is my #1 choice as well, but that said I'm not up to date on the the cost/asking price needed to get him

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by 868904

If you are worried about term and how Markstrom will age, then the best bet for an elite goalie is Kuemper, who has two more years at a good cap hit. But there is an asset cost to acquire and you are playing this goalie carousel game again soon; however, at least the timing fits with the current core and fully establishes the two year win window.

Ideally, the Canucks trade for OEL has Demko as the centrepiece and the Canucks re-sign Markstrom. With Demko in the fold, Arizona is more inclined to just let Kuemper go a little cheaper.

Honestly, I’d be ok with trading a decent asset right now like Mangiapane for Kuemper. I’m not sure the Flames would be able to keep Mangiapane long term anyways. I’m less inclined to trade the 2021 first because that could be a long term asset for the Flames.

I would rather have a long term goalie and keep Mangipane then kick the can down the road for 2 years and pay a price like Mang to get Kuemper for 2 Years.

[Vinny01]

Pinder seems to think the Flames are in on Markstrom and he would want to play here.

Boomer taking the pessimistic approach they are looking at Talbot and Markstrom won’t come here. Boomer does want a goalie he thinks the Flames will go with a cheap tandem again.

[Toonage]

I get what Boomer is saying. Treliving has been content paying for league average goaltending. It hasn't been concern #1 even though it should be.

But Pinder is right this time. This guy has been the Canucks MVP and he's probably going to be worth the money. You know how well he plays, you see him a lot, the team should know all they need to know and should make every effort to bring him in.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I get what Boomer is saying. Treliving has been content paying for league average goaltending. It hasn't been concern #1 even though it should be.

But Pinder is right this time. This guy has been the Canucks MVP and he's probably going to be worth the money. You know how well he plays, you see him a lot, the team should know all they need to know and should make every effort to bring him in.

Yeah, Pinder is right but I think Boom is just playing the role of pessimistic Flames fan, and really...I get it.

It’s really hard to believe that things will actually go well for this team in the next week or so, because they haven’t in 2+ years. There’s just been no improvement, so why is that going to change? Then specifically on the goaltending front, this GM has had 6 years and has done nothing but cycle in crap goalies that let the team down in the end...but he keeps doing it, so why should we have hope that he’ll do anything but the same thing again this year?

Look for your goalie, but do not trust to hope. It has forsaken these lands.

[undercoverbrother]

Dear Markstrom

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I get what Boomer is saying. Treliving has been content paying for league average goaltending. It hasn't been concern #1 even though it should be.

But Pinder is right this time. This guy has been the Canucks MVP and he's probably going to be worth the money. You know how well he plays, you see him a lot, the team should know all they need to know and should make every effort to bring him in.

If Treliving has always been so content, why is he always seeking a goaltender?

Content is defined as being in a state of peaceful happiness, with him constantly looking for goalies that tells me he is the opposite of content.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

If Treliving has always been so content, why is he always seeking a goaltender?

Content is defined as being in a state of peaceful happiness, with him constantly looking for goalies that tells me he is the opposite of content.

May have been a poor choice of words. Tell me which you would prefer and I'll note it.

[agulati]

I share the opinion of some other posters. I’d prefer Holtby over Markstrom as a UFA. This obviously depends on the term/salary that is offered to Markstrom, but there is a good chance that Markstrom gets overpaid comes Friday. In that case we should move on to Holtby.

[Vinny01]

the thing with the Oilers rumor is the Flames can outbid them on AAV and can go long term as well. The Flames also have been the better team and have his good buddy Lindholm. The mountains and nicer city should clearly make Calgary the favorite over Edmonton.

Burke on the radio this morning based on the people he talked to thinks Markstrom gets to free agency as they can’t agree on the expansion protection.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Yeah, Pinder is right but I think Boom is just playing the role of pessimistic Flames fan, and really...I get it.

It’s really hard to believe that things will actually go well for this team in the next week or so, because they haven’t in 2+ years. There’s just been no improvement, so why is that going to change? Then specifically on the goaltending front, this GM has had 6 years and has done nothing but cycle in crap goalies that let the team down in the end...but he keeps doing it, so why should we have hope that he’ll do anything but the same thing again this year?

Look for your goalie, but do not trust to hope. It has forsaken these lands.

Ok Eomer, I see you

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by Toonage

May have been a poor choice of words. Tell me which you would prefer and I'll note it.

I'd say he settled because the cost for the guys he wanted was far too high, for example in the rumored Bishop and Fleury deals, they wanted our 2016 first round pick. Or in other cases like Andersen, the other team didn't want to move the player within the division.

The only goalie we could have gotten that he was in on was Talbot, but we traded for Hamilton instead.