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Vinny01 · 02-19-2019, 02:06 PM

https://www.thefourthperiod.com/pagn...trade-and-sign

Duchene open to sign and trade (or at least he is letting it be known he is not dead set on July 1)

Flames Draft Watcher · 02-19-2019, 02:09 PM

Puljujarvi is Finnish not Swedish

SeanCharles · 02-19-2019, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

You do if it means you can bring in Mark Stone, a proven, in his prime player.

If Dube has to go to make that happen then so be it.

As much as it would pain me to trade Dube, trading any of the young dmen would be worse IMO.

Preferably Mangiapane and our 1st are the key pieces in any major deal but if the difference between getting Stone or not is Dube I think you gotta do it (assuming we can re-sign).

Flames Draft Watcher · 02-19-2019, 03:30 PM

We know Treliving puts a big value on defense (he played defense himself in pro hockey). Therefore I don’t think you’ll find him giving away young defenders very easily.

Therefore I think we’re much more likely to move a Mangiapane, Lazar. Dube or our 1st than a Hanifin, Valimaki, Andersson or Kylington

LWcrowfoot · 02-19-2019, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Puljujarvi is Finnish not Swedish

Puljujarvi is Finnish and Swedish

camm13 · 02-19-2019, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I kinda felt like Duchene and Nashville have always been a fit.

I think he ends up there with an extension in place.

He's also a wannabe country singer and has a house out there.

dammage79 · 02-19-2019, 04:11 PM

Getting Duchene would, to me anyways, send Mark Jankjowski the other way in the package.

Say Brodie, Janko and a prospect like Mangipane. I can see Trelving do something like that, and go snag Burakovsky too.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Duchene-Neal
Bennett-Backlund-Burakovsky
Dube-Ryan-Hathaway

Thats a stellar line up.

CaptainCrunch · 02-19-2019, 04:14 PM

https://twitter.com/user/status/1097995284926394369

SuperMatt18 · 02-19-2019, 04:15 PM

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He's also a wannabe country singer and has a house out there.

Yeah part of the reason I think he ends up there.

Nashville has the cap space and want more center depth. Feels like the ideal solution to me.

Vinny01 · 02-19-2019, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

Getting Duchene would, to me anyways, send Mark Jankjowski the other way in the package.

Say Brodie, Janko and a prospect like Mangipane. I can see Trelving do something like that, and go snag Burakovsky too.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Duchene-Neal
Bennett-Backlund-Burakovsky
Dube-Ryan-Hathaway

Thats a stellar line up.

The only thing I disagree with here is Brodie going in the trade and that trade heavily favors the Sens. Swap Brodie for our 1st and that could be it.

Frolik for Burakovsky is something I could see happening. Caps have had Burakovsky on the block all year and rumors they have been looking to bolster their third line has it making some sense to me (not sure about the cap implications)

Flames Fan, Ph.D. · 02-19-2019, 04:17 PM

As the Flames enter a window of being a good / elite team, the value of our players will rise in the trade market. The younger players stand to gain the most. Assuming Hanifin and Valimaki are untouchable, I'm also hoping Tre doesn't move either Kylington or Andersson. It would be the equivalent of selling low on these two young players.

If you need to move a defenseman, move Brodie. He is currently at peak value as an asset.

FlamesAddiction · 02-19-2019, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

Getting Duchene would, to me anyways, send Mark Jankjowski the other way in the package.

Say Brodie, Janko and a prospect like Mangipane. I can see Trelving do something like that, and go snag Burakovsky too.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Duchene-Neal
Bennett-Backlund-Burakovsky
Dube-Ryan-Hathaway

Thats a stellar line up.

I can't see Brodie traded this season. He plays too many minutes IMO and it would rick upsetting chemistry. Just my opinion. But I definitely see him traded in the off-season.

Switch Brodie for our 1st and maybe a 2020 1st or 2nd if it is a sign and trade, or if Duchesne and the Flames are allowed to negotiate a contract prior to a trade.

442scotty · 02-19-2019, 04:28 PM

The Flames are going to lose a young defenceman to Seattle . That’s pretty much guaranteed so you may as well trade one , Kylington, now if the deal is right. Flames can only protect 3 ? So they would be Hanafin, Anderson and Valimaki. They will expose Giordano because Seattle would never take him. Kylington will be traded unless the team is allowed to cut a deal with Seattle? (Is this still allowed after the Vegas fallout?) I would think that Brodie will be traded next year as well to keep costs down

SeanCharles · 02-19-2019, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 442scotty

The Flames are going to lose a young defenceman to Seattle . That’s pretty much guaranteed so you may as well trade one , Kylington, now if the deal is right. Flames can only protect 3 ? So they would be Hanafin, Anderson and Valimaki. They will expose Giordano because Seattle would never take him. Kylington will be traded unless the team is allowed to cut a deal with Seattle? (Is this still allowed after the Vegas fallout?)

You worry about expansion, at the earliest, 1 year before its set to occur.

Much can change between now and then so you worry about it when the time comes.

There are ways to swing a side deal so Seattle will take an extra asset to retain the guys we want.

Vinny01 · 02-19-2019, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 442scotty

The Flames are going to lose a young defenceman to Seattle . That’s pretty much guaranteed so you may as well trade one , Kylington, now if the deal is right. Flames can only protect 3 ? So they would be Hanafin, Anderson and Valimaki. They will expose Giordano because Seattle would never take him. Kylington will be traded unless the team is allowed to cut a deal with Seattle? (Is this still allowed after the Vegas fallout?) I would think that Brodie will be traded next year as well to keep costs down

I wouldn’t trade one of those young 3 on ELC now as I see their value only getting higher as we get closer to expansion.

djsFlames · 02-19-2019, 04:41 PM

1st + Jankowski + prospect

could be the potential package for Duchene

Sounds like he would be less of a risk to go to the open market in FA (than say, Stone) also.

dammage79 · 02-19-2019, 04:43 PM

I still think Stone is Otttawa's next captain. I really don't see him leaving. They can build with him.

dissentowner · 02-19-2019, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

I still think Stone is Otttawa's next captain. I really don't see him leaving. They can build with him.

I agree. Especially if the rumoured $10.5M/yr is true on a five year deal. That is the best offer he will get. I heard he likes Ottawa and has roots there.

codynw · 02-19-2019, 05:01 PM

I figured Mark Stone would be leaving as soon as he signed that one year deal last summer.

flambers · 02-19-2019, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

We know Treliving puts a big value on defense (he played defense himself in pro hockey). Therefore I don’t think you’ll find him giving away young defenders very easily.

Therefore I think we’re much more likely to move a Mangiapane, Lazar. Dube or our 1st than a Hanifin, Valimaki, Andersson or Kylington

Sure, however I would think teams are going to request one of the Flames young dman. The forwards in my view have less value