kermit's ongoing infill issues

[GGG]

Originally Posted by kermitology

So, I think there’s started to be a misconception. They are NOT encroaching on my property. I believe they are building without a sufficient side yard setback.

What's interesting though is the distance between the two houses is correct if the property line is equally spaced between the two houses. Based on your DP you believe that the fence is the property line but without a legal survey to define that line you don't know if your DP is correct.

[4X4]

He said in the first post that the fence is entirely on his own property.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by 4X4

He said in the first post that the fence is entirely on his own property.

Based on the Development Permit for his property which I believe is not based on a legal survey (If I am wrong on this point then just ignore my post). Without a legal survey there can be error in where the property line is.

Its essentially one of two options -- the new builders just measured 2.4m from the existing house and assumed the property line was in the middle or they surveyed it and are using the correct property line.

[4X4]

I see what you're saying, and you could be right. I was thinking that kermit's house is deliberately not as close to the property line as it could have been. He mentioned that he built the house.

[Reneeee]

Originally Posted by kermitology

So, I think there’s started to be a misconception. They are NOT encroaching on my property. I believe they are building without a sufficient side yard setback.

I think you might have as well judging by photos posted

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[RogerWilco]

You say that your fence is on the property line, but is there an actual dimension on your DP site plan that shows the distance from your house to the side property line? There should be. If you add up the measurements that you provided earlier they add up to right around 2.4m. That is what would normally be expected to be the distance between 2 infill houses if they are constructed right to the set back.

From your measurements earlier 1.4m + 0.953m = 2.353m include a bit for the thickness of the fence and it is almost dead on 2.4m.

Are you absolutely sure that you are not built to the 1.2m setback and the fence in not a little bit in the adjacent property?

[Hockeyguy15]

Blah blah blah. I want an update!

[Jordan!]

Updates?

Also, wtf is an infill?

[RogerWilco]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

Updates?

Also, wtf is an infill?

Normally new houses that are built on old lots in established inner city communities where the old house is demolished is called an infill.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by Bouw N Arrow

Updates?

Also, wtf is an infill?

the update is some people are turning on Kermit. On the sympathy/outrage scale, he appear to have gone from having 98% support to about 80%.

[Scroopy Noopers]

What’s the obsession with maximizing the building footprint on the property? I would rather have a few extra feet of yard, trees, plants, grass.... than be couped up in my unnecessarily large eye sore.

(As a buyer. As a builder it’s maximizing profit).

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

What’s the obsession with maximizing the building footprint on the property? I would rather have a few extra feet of yard, trees, plants, grass.... than be couped up in my unnecessarily large eye sore.

Because people pay more for extra square footage but pay nothing for extra side yard. So builders, trying to maximize their profits, build as big a house as they can.

[Swarly]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

What’s the obsession with maximizing the building footprint on the property? I would rather have a few extra feet of yard, trees, plants, grass.... than be couped up in my unnecessarily large eye sore.

(As a buyer. As a builder it’s maximizing profit).

because if I wanted a bunch of plants and grass and trees and crap I would go live in the forest like a crazy person. I want a big giant house with maximum square footage. I need my square footage to be more than the square footage of friends and family, that's how I know I beat them.

[Nufy]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

What’s the obsession with maximizing the building footprint on the property? I would rather have a few extra feet of yard, trees, plants, grass.... than be couped up in my unnecessarily large eye sore.

(As a buyer. As a builder it’s maximizing profit).

Most new neighborhoods these days are like living on a Monopoly board.

Everything looks the same and they are packed into as small a lot as allowed to maximize profit in a development.

Imo...older neighborhoods are better for this as you actually get yard space and sometimes a bigger lot / back alley etc...

Doesn't impress the in-laws but IDGAF...

[NuclearFart]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

What’s the obsession with maximizing the building footprint on the property? I would rather have a few extra feet of yard, trees, plants, grass.... than be couped up in my unnecessarily large eye sore.

(As a buyer. As a builder it’s maximizing profit).

That's not the point of an infill. If the market wanted small house with more green space they would just update the existing home. Its even more relevant in colder climates where you will be spending alot more time cooped up inside your large bunker.

The inner city Duplexes are far worse for putting massive unoriginal cubes that completely dominate the lot from sidewalk to alley. Densification yo!

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

What’s the obsession with maximizing the building footprint on the property? I would rather have a few extra feet of yard, trees, plants, grass.... than be couped up in my unnecessarily large eye sore.

(As a buyer. As a builder it’s maximizing profit).

For myself I totally agree, but that extra square footage might be the difference between a 3 bedroom and a 4 bedroom house which can be a big deal for some people. And really, there isn't much difference between a 4' side yard and a 6' foot one, but the smaller side yard would get you about a 10-20% increase in square footage on a 2 story house.

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Because people pay more for extra square footage but pay nothing for extra side yard. So builders, trying to maximize their profits, build as big a house as they can.

Particularly because marginal increases in building size generally don't cost nearly as much per square foot as the rest of the building.

If you compare say a 25' x 40' house to a 30' x 40' one, the larger one gets you 20% more square footage but it wouldn't cost that much more to build. A lot of the expensive stuff (kitchens, bathrooms, utilities, etc.) is going to be roughly the same for both. And even the marginal increases in structural size don't cost much relative to the increase in space as there's only a 7.5% increase in footing/foundation length and exterior wall area (which will influence framing, insulation, drywall, window, and siding costs) with the larger house.

[BurningYears]

Originally Posted by NuclearFart

That's not the point of an infill. If the market wanted small house with more green space they would just update the existing home. Its even more relevant in colder climates where you will be spending alot more time cooped up inside your large bunker.

The inner city Duplexes are far worse for putting massive unoriginal cubes that completely dominate the lot from sidewalk to alley. Densification yo!

Kinda like this in South Calgary just north of Marda Loop (I did not know the community was called that) you can see 2 new infills with massive concrete pads and no space next to 2 old houses with nice yards and space

https://goo.gl/maps/oZBCUcNBaTT2

[NuclearFart]

Yup, densification >> beautification. Looks like they messed up on the front though, I can still see some grass.

[BeltlineFan]

There’s always going to be a market for people who want inner city living without the expensive and time consuming maintenance of a large lot. I personally think this is better than adding to urban sprawl by subdividing sections on the edge of the city. But I could see why others would prefer the large lot. It’s definitely a preference issue.

[topfiverecords]

Those front steps look like a fun idea in a winter climate. No way would you want to enter at ground level and go up a set of stairs inside.