As we were discussing in the GT, I would trade both Brodie and Hamilton, and have our defensive prospects make the jump. Don't think that the D core could do much worse as long as goaltending is competent. If the offense, and more importantly the style of play is more up tempo and attacking next season, could actually do better.
This team is a long ways from being set in goal going forward.
I am a long term season Flames fan and season ticket holder. Nothing would make me happier (from a Flames perspective) than to hear a news release tomorrow that Gully and Cameron have been replaced with Marty Gelinas and Ryan Huska until further notice. I honestly think any coaching change would be positive for this team. I would love to see our pp after even one week under new coaches. Brad is a great GM, but he will go down with these loser coaches if he doesn't do something soon.
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Don't trade anyone until Gulatzan is gone. Give a real coach a chance to work with these players first before we make more Greg Gilbert mistakes.
As much as GG has shown he's not capable of being an NHL coach, the offensive power of the roster is really lacking depth, and there's no forwards in the system in place to come and step up. Flames need to get forwards that can produce off the UFA market and via trade. If you're trading, and Gio is untouchable, only Brodie and Hamilton will bring a forward that could contribute.
I think the defensive prospects the Flames have make it worth the risk to shed some defensive talent.
When you really think about the price paid for Hamonic you're talking a potential cornerstone player in the top 15, and 2 solid players like an Andersson or Fox, and mind you this is a deep draft so who knows what lies in that 2nd round. I love Hamonic, but we got absolutely fleeced on this trade and Trelivings decisions in terms of this trade, the Brouwer signing and the Gulutzan hiring among others make this guy look a lot less competent than we thought.
Depends where the pick falls...lower first rounders are not even likely to be quality NHLers. Cornerstone? Unlikely...in the last 30 years how many cornerstone's have the Flames drafted in round one?
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Flames are controlling play and badly out-shooting opponents. But your scoring chances are really low.
Not sure if that is a coaching problem or a player problem.
But I feel like it is a player problem. Flames just don't have the offensive talent to convert their possession into actual scoring chances.
Same problem the Habs have had all season. They were controlling play and getting tons of shots on net. But they just couldn't score. Sometimes you have to look at the players and realize they aren't getting it done (either lacking good-luck or skill)
They just got owned by a team that sent a message out to their fans saying they are tanking, the season is over.
Outside of JG and Gio, they melted down when Backlund missed an easy chance and Gillies didn't do well in his second goal of the night. Confidence zapped and mistakes were egregious from that point.
As much as GG has shown he's not capable of being an NHL coach, the offensive power of the roster is really lacking depth, and there's no forwards in the system in place to come and step up. Flames need to get forwards that can produce off the UFA market and via trade. If you're trading, and Gio is untouchable, only Brodie and Hamilton will bring a forward that could contribute.
I think the defensive prospects the Flames have make it worth the risk to shed some defensive talent.
The problem is you are trading from a position of weakness. You are doing exactly what the Oilers did.
You'll never get value for Brodie at this point, so why do it? Why make a trade for the sake of it?
Flames are controlling play and badly out-shooting opponents. But your scoring chances are really low.
Not sure if that is a coaching problem or a player problem.
But I feel like it is a player problem. Flames just don't have the offensive talent to convert their possession into actual scoring chances.
Same problem the Habs have had all season. They were controlling play and getting tons of shots on net. But they just couldn't score. Sometimes you have to look at the players and realize they aren't getting it done (either lacking good-luck or skill)
Its both to me.
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Depends where the pick falls...lower first rounders are not even likely to be quality NHLers. Cornerstone? Unlikely...in the last 30 years how many cornerstone's have the Flames drafted in round one?
If what they're saying is true and its comparable to the McDavid (2015) draft, scroll through that first round and tell me most of the teams there don't have something special with their picks.
I think if ownership and management really wanted Darryl back, it would have happened earlier in the season.
I don't see it happening.
You may be right, but I also think that Gulutzan wasn't quite bad enough to fire in the middle of the season.
I still don't think that they will fire him in the midst of a race, but at the same time if Treliving and the rest of management feel that Gulutzan isn't the right fit after all, I think it would be prudent to relieve him sooner than later, even if they have to go interim for the rest of the season.
Heck, let Marty Gelinas coach. He was here for the hard-working up-temp version, and he was here for the puck-possession version. Maybe he can modify the system and create a happy medium.
Anyway, I don't think Gulutzan gets axed until the season is over. However, I do think that if there is an available coach that the Flames are intent on, then I would rather them do it now and use the rest of the season to start adjusting to a new system and have the coach get a feel for the players and vice versa.
The Flames aren't out of the race enough to give up on the season, but they are falling behind at the most critical time, so maybe a coaching change MAY jump-start them a bit. It would be a gamble, and probably one that wouldn't make much of a difference either way for the rest of this season.
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