Acts of Terrorism in Edmonton: Officer stabbed, pedestrians run down

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

If you want to keep insulting me and being wrong in general feel free to PM me otherwise please stop hijacking this thread. I don't want to have this become a public argument that derails a legitimate conversation. Google the world bigot btw. *sigh*

Calling you a bigot is not meant to be an insult. It's what you are from your words and actions and judging by your fear of the next dinner talk with your dad it's not much of a surprise.

If you don't want to discuss things don't say them in threads. If you're being a bigot in this thread why should I PM you?

[Ducay]

Jesus - feel like I'm watching CNN; Bigot, White Nationalist, and Racist just happen to be what they call everyone there too. Really wins the debate

Like Ressurection said, can't we discuss facts and policies without it degrading into a name calling match to try and end debate. There are lots of substantive issues at play here worth talking about without getting the thread locked due to childishness

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Jesus - feel like I'm watching CNN; Bigot, White Nationalist, and Racist just happen to be what they call everyone there too. Really wins the debate

Like Ressurection said, can't we discuss facts and policies without it degrading into a name calling match to try and end debate. There are lots of substantive issues at play here worth talking about without getting the thread locked due to childishness

I'll say it again, if you don't want to be called a bigot, I have a very simple solution: don't be a bigot.

When resurrection and Snufflepagusus enter every thread that involves Muslims and say bigoted things, they'll be called a bigot. It's not to end debate and when it's coming from more than one poster maybe a little self evaluation is needed.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

This will do wonders when debating my Dad about taking in refugees. I can already hear him saying "told you so" over our next dinner.

So let's just pretend your dad was talking about black people, and the next day a black person was arrested for murder and over your next dinner said "told ya so son!"

Wouldn't you say that's a bigoted thing to say?

[Ducay]

Calgaryblood - you're really not helping your cause by rebutting every criticism by calling more people bigots, and telling them to simply 'stop being bigots'.

Like a couple of posters have mentioned, your attitude is literally the definition of being a bigot. You're painting with broad strokes just because they've said something you disagree with.

[Bawbag]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

So let's just pretend your dad was talking about black people, and the next day a black person was arrested for murder and over your next dinner said "told ya so son!"

Wouldn't you say that's a bigoted thing to say?

Sounds to me that you are a bigot.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Calgaryblood - you're really not helping your cause by rebutting every criticism by calling more people bigots, and telling them to simply 'stop being bigots'.

Like a couple of posters have mentioned, your attitude is literally the definition of being a bigot. You're painting with broad strokes just because they've said something you disagree with.

If I'm a bigot towards bigots then I'm happy about that.

I'm not a bigot towards any religion, race, culture, sexual preference or anything of the sort so I sleep pretty good at night.

Me and my dad don't sit at the dinner table on a Sunday and talk bout them terrorist refugees.

[CMPunk]

Well this thread is going about how I expected.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by CMPunk

Well this thread is going about how I expected.

Like the areana thread?

[schteve_d]

Not to make light of it, but luckily for everyone involved this twit seemed pretty incompetent at mayhem. With two vehicles and a knife attack he really didn't do a lot of damage! The cop was released from hospital and by the sounds of it two hit pedestrians were treated and released. One has a head injury but is expected to fully recover. Pretty piss-poor attack.

[CaptainCrunch]

Simple solution that saves us money, stop his claim, put him on a plane and makes sure that the Somali government knows he's on the way.

If we need a speedy trial for it, then have a speedy trial.

But he shouldn't serve a day in a Canadian Prison. Just boot him out and send him back to be dealt with by his country.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll

The ISIS flag and his past interaction with the RCMP (being the subject of a terror investigation) speak pretty strongly to his intent.

The RCMP pretty much all but confirmed he isn’t a Canadian citizen, is in the refugee claimant process and is Somalian. The question now is why someone in the refugee process who is investigated for espousing radical views and gets put on a watch list is even allowed to stay in Canada and continue the refugee process

That's the 10,000 pound question.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Simple solution that saves us money, stop his claim, put him on a plane and makes sure that the Somali government knows he's on the way.

If we need a speedy trial for it, then have a speedy trial.

But he shouldn't serve a day in a Canadian Prison. Just boot him out and send him back to be dealt with by his country.

How is that justice, though? If the outcome had been worse and someone had been killed by this idiot, do you think the family members of the victim(s) would be ok with the Crown just denying his refugee claim and sending him packing without any further punishment?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

How is that justice, though? If the outcome had been worse and someone had been killed by this idiot, do you think the family members of the victim(s) would be ok with the Crown just denying his refugee claim and sending him packing without any further punishment?

As multiple people have stated on this board over the past bunch of years, justice has nothing to do with the victims, it has to do with the interpretation of the law.

I'm fine with denying its refugee claim because Somalia deals with ISIS members as the garbage they are.

Sending him out of this great country is the greatest justice of all, especially if your sending him back to a hell hole.

Now we know he's entitled to a trial. and his lawyer will pull out every trick in the book to extend his stay here, even if it is in a Canadian Prison which is far better for him then facing an executioners bullets or knives back home.

Then when things get quiet like a sheep he'll behave in prison, get an early release and then probably be allowed to stay in Canada because sending him back to a country where he's facing a death sentence is "Wrong"

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

I love how the bigots think refugees weren't allowed in Canada before Trudeau became PM.

Newsflash: refugees have been allowed in canada way before Trudeau showed up and yes from Muslim countries too.

This apparent bigot has no problem with the 20,000 Colombian refugees that came to Canada the last 10 years, same thing with the 18,000 Chinese or the 10,000 Haitians.

Why? because they come to Canada for a better way of life, they don't spew hatred against Canadians in their churches, they accept our 150 year old laws that built this country and don't ask for special privileges based on a religion, and they certainly don't use terrorism to protect their sick and twisted form of Islam that claims there is only one incomparable God.


Top 10 reason why Islam is not a religion based on peace

1- 18,000 deadly terror attacks committed explicitly in the name of Islam in just the last ten years. (Other religions combined for perhaps a dozen or so)

2- Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, had people killed for insulting him or for criticizing his religion. This included women. Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

3- Muhammad said in many places that he has been "ordered by Allah to fight men until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is his messenger." In the last nine years of his life, he ordered no less than 65 military campaigns to do exactly that.
Muhammad inspired his men to war with the basest of motives, using captured loot, sex and a gluttonous paradise as incentives. He beheaded captives, enslaved children and raped women captured in battle. Again, Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

4- Muhammad directed Muslims to wage war on other religions and bring them into submission to Islam. Within the first few decades following his death, his Arabian companions invaded and conquered Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and Zoroastrian lands. A mere 25 years after Muhammad's death, Muslim armies had captured land and people within the modern borders of over 28 countries outside of Saudi Arabia.

5- Muslims continued their Jihad against other religions for 1400 years, checked only by the ability of non-Muslims to defend themselves. To this day, not a week goes by that Islamic fundamentalists do not attempt to kill Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists explicitly in the name of Allah.
None of these other religions are at war with each other.

6- Islam is the only religion that has to retain its membership by formally threatening to kill anyone who leaves. This is according to the example set by Muhammad.

7- Islam teaches that non-Muslims are less than fully human. Muhammad said that Muslims can be put to death for murder, but that a Muslim could never be put to death for killing a non-Muslim.

8- The Quran never once speaks of Allah's love for non-Muslims, but there are hundreds of verses that speak of Allah's cruelty toward and hatred of non-Muslims.

9- "Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!"
(The last words from the cockpit of Flight 93 and many more terrorists)

10- Islam is the mother-load of bad ideas!
(Sam Harris)

Islam is a religion of peace but only if you're a Muslim, it has proven over and over it's doesn't mix well with western culture, if you want the bigotry to go away there needs to be sweeping changes to that backwards religion.

Have a nice day

[calgaryblood]

I wonder which white nationalist website you got that off haha.

[taco.vidal]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

I wonder which white nationalist website you got that off haha.

Which items from his post are not true? Can you provide a source that we could read to understand why those items are not true?

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

As multiple people have stated on this board over the past bunch of years, justice has nothing to do with the victims, it has to do with the interpretation of the law.

I'm fine with denying its refugee claim because Somalia deals with ISIS members as the garbage they are.

Sending him out of this great country is the greatest justice of all, especially if your sending him back to a hell hole.

Now we know he's entitled to a trial. and his lawyer will pull out every trick in the book to extend his stay here, even if it is in a Canadian Prison which is far better for him then facing an executioners bullets or knives back home.

Then when things get quiet like a sheep he'll behave in prison, get an early release and then probably be allowed to stay in Canada because sending him back to a country where he's facing a death sentence is "Wrong"

So if someone commits a crime while in Canada, you think there should be different punishments if they're a Canadian citizen or a foreign national? What if the suspect was here as a tourist rather than a refugee claimant? Would you propose just deporting him instead of applying the same standard of justice we would apply against a Canadian citizen who committed the same crime in that case?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

I wonder which white nationalist website you got that off haha.

Religion of peace.com, a website that receives funding from the David Horowitz Freedom Center, a noted far right conversative group which he SPLC has identified as hate-group for their anti-Muslim and anti-Black agenda.

Super weird how he just “accidentally” stumbles upon these hate group sites.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

I'll leave satisfied knowing now that the facts are out.... you'll leave this thread as per usual

God forbid people preach patience and wait until the facts are out before jumping to conclusions!