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Old 03-24-2017, 12:46 PM   #101
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Let me see if I've got this right.

- Slash a hand and break a finger: no penalty.
- Slash a hand and sever a finger: no penalty.
- Slash a stick and break it: 2 minute penalty for slashing.

I dunno. Seems logical to me.
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Old 03-24-2017, 12:49 PM   #102
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There is no reason for this play to be in the game. The stick should be used for one purpose, and one purpose only: playing the puck. The game would be astronomically better if that was the case. It would be the closest thing to the 'free flowing' game of the 80's, but with the tremendous speed and skill of players in the league.

Start it exhibition game #1 next year and stay with it. Call every instance. If your stick is off the ice and hits another player it's a penalty. It may be game 5 of the regular season before we see any actual 5 on 5 action. But that's okay.
Exactly what I was thinking.

I didn't love (and still don't) how quick they are to call holding. A lot of times we see those missed calls and they are a detriment to the game. So loosen up there. But, it's also going to be a rarity that someone is hurt as a result of a missed holding call...

Slashing? Everytime you do it you are introducing a chance to injure. So how hard is it to have a 0 tolerance policy on violent rulebook infractions, but give leeway to the rest for the benefit of the game?

Just no place in the the game for a 'well executed slash'
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Old 03-24-2017, 12:52 PM   #103
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Let me see if I've got this right.

- Slash a hand and break a finger: no penalty.
- Slash a hand and sever a finger: no penalty.
- Slash a stick and break it: 2 minute penalty for slashing.

I dunno. Seems logical to me.
Sticks are expensive. Fingers will heal.
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Old 03-24-2017, 12:52 PM   #104
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The Spengler Cup has a ZERO tolerance policy to slashing, and most stick infractions. Honestly at first I was not a fan of it because there were so many penalties in the first game. Yet, the next game there were many fewer calls because the players learned that they couldn't get away with it.

With out slashes skilled players had much more room to dangle and it made for some exciting plays.

I am 100% for the same kind of policy in the NHL. I'm sure the first dozen games will be a boring penalty fest, but after that players will be safer and skilled players will take advantage and make entertaining plays.
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Old 03-24-2017, 12:57 PM   #105
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The Spengler Cup has a ZERO tolerance policy to slashing, and most stick infractions. Honestly at first I was not a fan of it because there were so many penalties in the first game. Yet, the next game there were many fewer calls because the players learned that they couldn't get away with it.

With out slashes skilled players had much more room to dangle and it made for some exciting plays.

I am 100% for the same kind of policy in the NHL. I'm sure the first dozen games will be a boring penalty fest, but after that players will be safer and skilled players will take advantage and make entertaining plays.
Never going to happen with the old boys club presently running the NHL. In a couple of decades where there are some regime changes I can see some changes for the better but a lot of the dinosaurs running the NHL still long for hockey the way they played it decades ago and it still pains them that they have to hand out suspensions for some of the hits that get punished today.
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Old 03-24-2017, 12:58 PM   #106
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Allowing slashing evens the playing field. Helps neutralize the more talented teams.
The NHL wants this.
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Old 03-24-2017, 01:19 PM   #107
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Slashing a guys stick is a legit tactic to cause a turnover so I think it should stay, but if the slash breaks a stick, I think it should be a penalty. Slashes anywhere other than the stick should be an automatic penalty including hacks to the hands or legs.
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Old 03-24-2017, 01:24 PM   #108
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Also chicks dig scars.
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Old 03-24-2017, 01:33 PM   #109
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Also chicks dig scars.
Amen to that, brother.

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Didnt even get a minor for it
Neither did Tkachuk.
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Old 03-24-2017, 01:35 PM   #111
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I probably missed this somewhere ... but does Crosby even have a hearing scheduled?
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I probably missed this somewhere ... but does Crosby even have a hearing scheduled?
Bill Daly said they weren't looking into it further.
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Exactly what I was thinking.

I didn't love (and still don't) how quick they are to call holding. A lot of times we see those missed calls and they are a detriment to the game. So loosen up there. But, it's also going to be a rarity that someone is hurt as a result of a missed holding call...

Slashing? Everytime you do it you are introducing a chance to injure. So how hard is it to have a 0 tolerance policy on violent rulebook infractions, but give leeway to the rest for the benefit of the game?

Just no place in the the game for a 'well executed slash'
Exactly. Defence should be played with body positioning.

It would also remove the terrible subjective situations when chasing breakaways - where you can hook/slash *just a bit* - but where that line is seems to be anybody's guess.
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I'd love to break a stick over Crosby's arm or hand just to prove a point and take him out of the playoffs.
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I'd love to break a stick over Crosby's arm or hand just to prove a point and take him out of the playoffs.
The best part is that what you just described is a penalty.

Crosby would also go off for 2 minutes.
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Old 03-24-2017, 02:02 PM   #116
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The best part is that what you just described is a penalty.

Crosby would also go off for 2 minutes.
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I want a reporter to ask Gaudreau that question...
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Old 03-24-2017, 02:14 PM   #118
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I can't wait for HNIC Saturday to hear if Cherry has anything to say about this. This is exactly the behavior he claims is infesting the NHL because of the atmosphere the league has created. But what happens when its his own poster boy performing the ratty act?

I really don't care either way, but if I was the Senators I'd pick up the phone, call up a goon, pay that goon a few bucks to go out and clobber Crosby (or one of the Pens key players anyways) ala Sestito-styles (more Penguins irony) and get it evened.

By no action the league is signaling self-policing is required.

I dunno about anyone else but I've seen an awful lot of dirty plays this year, moreso than usual. Someone gonna get the hurt real bad!
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Old 03-24-2017, 02:32 PM   #119
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^^^^ Cherry, or anyone else can't say too much or they'll get a hefty fine. I mean God forbid anyone publicly questioned the NHL's wheel of justice.

Wouldn't be surprised if Melnyk got fined.
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Old 03-24-2017, 02:35 PM   #120
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Slashing a guys stick is a legit tactic to cause a turnover so I think it should stay, but if the slash breaks a stick, I think it should be a penalty. Slashes anywhere other than the stick should be an automatic penalty including hacks to the hands or legs.
Lifting the stick is, but slashing isn't IMO. Growing up, and anytime I play now coming down with your stick in any way is considered lazy and dangerous.

Unfortunately, if you allow it you're left penalizing players when an injury occurs. The rules are meant to promote fair play and avoid injuries.

(This is also a great conversation to be having with activeStick. I spent a good amount of time trying to find a way to incorporate 'Split'...)
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