What would Giordano fetch Flames at trade deadline

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

...From the flames perspective I think the contention window probably opens in 2018/19 season if things go well and by then Gio is 35 and probly a 2nd pairing guy and starting to decline.

This is true.

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

If you can move him for a package involving a young d man and a young top 6 winger. The value is much better for the team going forward.

The window of this core is 2019-2025 based on the age of the young guys now. A move like above gives that team a much better chance I'm that window while taking a hit now when The ceiling of the team isn't as high

This is also probably true, although I am not the least convinced that trading Giordano this summer is pragmatic nor realistic. The only way it makes sense is if the Flames are positioned to fill the hole his loss will create. That hole is MUCH easier to fill when Giordano is a second pairing defenseman. Barring a Subban/Weber situation the best option for this team is to wait another year or two until a player like Killington, Anderson, Hickey, or Fox looks poised to contribute. Some players are just never going to recoup their value to the team in a trade, and Giordano is one of them.

[Oil Stain]

I don't think the Flames could trade Giordano unless they retain salary.

He's a good player but that contract is poison. He will be 38! going into the last season on that deal.

If you wander over to hockey reference and search for seasons by defenseman over the age of 37 and scoring 35 or more points you can see its a rare feat. It's only happened 16 times since the 05-06 season and 4 of those are Lidstrom.

I don't see who the market is. Contending teams can't afford the cap hit and rebuilding teams don't want the term. The contract doesn't back dive at all either which makes it unappealing to a team like Phoenix that might be interested in acquiring a low salary/high cap hit player.

The only option is for the Flames to keep him and hoPE he is one of those rare players that eludes father time. Even if he doesn't I'm sure he has a "career ending" injury and the Flames have to deal with a big LTIR situation which isn't great but not the end of the world.

[Machiavelli]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

That hole is MUCH easier to fill when Giordano is a second pairing defenseman. Barring a Subban/Weber situation the best option for this team is to wait another year or two until a player like Killington, Anderson, Hickey, or Fox looks poised to contribute. Some players are just never going to recoup their value to the team in a trade, and Giordano is one of them.

That's pretty much the only type of scenario I could see a Gio trade making sense.

[genetic_phreek]

How about Gio to TO for JVR?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

How about Gio to TO for JVR?

Okay. Who would play defence on the top two pairings?

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Okay. Who would play defence on the top two pairings?

Easy!

Jokipakka - Hamilton
Bartkowski - Kulak

And then, for good measure:

Brodie - Wideman

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

I don't see who the market is. Contending teams can't afford the cap hit and rebuilding teams don't want the term.

This. How many contending teams have that kind of cap space for the next five seasons? I can't think of one. And a younger, on-the-rise team gives up quality assets for Gio why? For a couple top-pairing seasons and then a huge contract that causes them headaches signing their own young stars.

The deal Gio signed would not have been available from any other team. It was a reward for past performance and a message of stability for this franchise.