PGT: Flames score a goal but Habs score 4 more

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

I don't think this is that much of a shot at the Flames as it is mocking the Oilers serendipitous "rebuild."

It's just a shot at the Flames, saying that what the Oilers did work(ed).

[ResAlien]

Another uncoachable core?

[bucksmasher]

[Lanny_McDonald]

How about GG just being fired? Screw the up.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Bear

GG accusing the team of "having no resolve"

"One goal goes in and we crumple"

Also roasted the 4th line for staying out too long on the shift leading up to the first goal.

He shouldn't roast his 4th line if he doesn't have last change.

Teams would win every trade with Calgary right now. Gulutzan can't even keep it competitive. The Flames have been absolutely smoked the past 3 games.

[wingmaker]

Originally Posted by Bear

To be honest I don't like the way he went after the 4th line. They are not the reason we are in this position. Look at the core of the team first.

Why? He can't hold players accountable for staying out too long and getting scored on?

Hockey is about details, not trying hard. And Calgary is not attending to details and it's leading to goals.

People in the game thread were commending Johnny for swearing at himself on the bench. Who cares if he swears at himself. He passed it right to an opposing player while on the power play to lead to a goal. That is not acceptable. Neither is staying out too long on a shift and giving the puck away for the first goal at the end of a good period. Coaches need to be held accountable, so do the players.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

It's just a shot at the Flames, saying that what the Oilers did work(ed).

I disagree. Rob Tychkowski was pretty brutal towards the Oilers rebuild for a long time.

But I'll leave it at that. Not all that important.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

It's just a shot at the Flames, saying that what the Oilers did work(ed).

No. He's been pretty hard on oilers management over the years (about the only one). He's just being a little trolly

[Bear]

Originally Posted by wingmaker

Why? He can't hold players accountable for staying out too long and getting scored on?

Hockey is about details, not trying hard. And Calgary is not attending to details and it's leading to goals.

People in the game thread were commending Johnny for swearing at himself on the bench. Who cares if he swears at himself. He passed it right to an opposing player while on the power play to lead to a goal. That is not acceptable. Neither is staying out too long on a shift and giving the puck away for the first goal at the end of a good period. Coaches need to be held accountable, so do the players.

I agree with holding them accountable. I didn't like the way he mocked the 4th line, "because they've scored so many goals this season".

If he wants to call the team out publicly he should be roasting Brodie, Brouwer, Gio etc

[Wiggum_PI]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

He shouldn't roast his 4th line if he doesn't have last change.

Teams would win every trade with Calgary right now. Gulutzan can't even keep it competitive. The Flames have been absolutely smoked the past 3 games.

I guess this is the "next level" that Gulutzan is taking the Flames to?

[Fischy13]

75% of the crap GG is ripped about, is on him and the coaches preparing his players mentally and being ready for games. GG, you need to change what your doing, it's not working and now your essentially blaming yourself in the media... sigh

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Another uncoachable core?

Stajan still trying to shake the Iginla stench?

[Art Vandelay]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

He shouldn't roast his 4th line if he doesn't have last change.

Teams would win every trade with Calgary right now. Gulutzan can't even keep it competitive. The Flames have been absolutely smoked the past 3 games.

He said they stayed out too long because sarcastically "they're scoring SO much" (paraphrasing)

[Lanny'sDaMan]

https://www.nhl.com/news/calgary-fla...?tid=277729160

So that's new info to me.

In the final minute of play in the third period and at any point in Overtime (Regular Season and Playoffs), Hockey Operations will initiate the review of any scenario that would otherwise be subject to a Coach's Challenge.

Huh. Glad they decided everyone was onside this time. Not a good track record with this...

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Another uncoachable core?

Certainly not - with Hartley able to get the best out of his best players in that core, and getting them to play for each other, why the heck can't we expect GG to produce at least somewhat comparable results from that group?

Remember the Hartley days when a single Flame gets facewashed and suddenly right there are all 4 other angry Flames on the ice trying to facewash that guy back? It's like a vague memory now.

[wingmaker]

Originally Posted by Bear

I agree with holding them accountable. I didn't like the way he mocked the 4th line, "because they've scored so many goals this season".

If he wants to call the team out publicly he should be roasting Brodie, Brouwer, Gio etc

Oh yeah it was nasty. There was definitely some mean. Not sure if that's a bad thing or not when the team is playing this badly, though. Gulutzan has gone out of his way to be a players coach by all accounts. Clearly that's not working... Or the players will resent him for it. Who knows. It's all rotten so there's probably not much good to go around.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan

In the final minute of play in the third period and at any point in Overtime (Regular Season and Playoffs), Hockey Operations will initiate the review of any scenario that would otherwise be subject to a Coach's Challenge..

Small derail, but I don't understand sports leagues' infatuation with scores / points in the last minute.

[Flash Walken]

Ferland with just 8 minutes tonight?

Injury still bothering him or did he ride the pine after the first goal? I saw him out there with Monahan and Gaudreau for a shift or two but then don't remember seeing him again.

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Certainly not - with Hartley able to get the best out of his best players in that core, and getting them to play for each other, why the heck can't we expect GG to produce at least somewhat comparable results from that group?

Remember the Hartley days when a single Flame gets facewashed and suddenly right there are all 4 other angry Flames on the ice trying to facewash that guy back? It's like a vague memory now.

Definitely true but it's important to note that's the same core that had clearly quit on Hartley last season.

[MoBiBu]

I wonder how much that extra padding on Johnny's gloves is affecting his play?

GG's reference to the league not caring is a reference to the players recognizing the Wideman effect (see: Gaudreau's comically oversized gloves); what else could it be?