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			Daigle was pretty terrible, too. But Yakupov is in the conversation. One of the five worst, I'd say.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-07-2016, 08:08 PM
			
			
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			I love the Oiler 'logic' too. 
 
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			10-07-2016, 08:09 PM
			
			
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			10-07-2016, 08:10 PM
			
			
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				That's the thing about 2012. Even if it's acknowledged that Yakupov was an awful pick, if you go back to that day who would you select instead? Ryan Murray I guess, but he hasn't been lights out amazing. Certainly would have been a million times better than Yakupov in retrospect but no slam dunk alternative selection there. 
			
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No brainer: Trade the pick for a an established d-man or high rated defensive prospect. 
 
Given their situation, that was a horrible pick. There is no way around it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-07-2016, 08:12 PM
			
			
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				This appears to be an actual Yakupov quote from a Blues reporter: 
 
Tom Timmermann @tomtimm 
Yakupov: this is first time I've played on really, really good team. I think it's awesome, I don't know what winning is. 
			
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If Vincent Lecavalier is the Michael Jordan of Hockey, Nail Yakupov is the Michael Scott
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-07-2016, 08:13 PM
			
			
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				No brainer: Trade the pick for a an established d-man or high rated defensive prospect.  
 
Given their situation, that was a horrible pick. There is no way around it. 
			
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You've seen what happens when they make trades.    They probably would have just swapped picks with the Islanders straight up then took Reinhart.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-07-2016, 08:13 PM
			
			
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			Although chia was the brains behind the 2011 c bruins he sure knows how to turn valuable assets into crap
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-07-2016, 08:14 PM
			
			
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				That's the thing about 2012. Even if it's acknowledged that Yakupov was an awful pick, if you go back to that day who would you select instead? Ryan Murray I guess, but he hasn't been lights out amazing. Certainly would have been a million times better than Yakupov in retrospect but no slam dunk alternative selection there. 
			
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Everyone and their mom was screaming at the Oilers to trade the pick. Yakupov's value was never higher than the day before he was drafted. Most #1 picks are like that. They probably could have got a bonafide top-2 dman for a #1 overall pick.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-07-2016, 08:14 PM
			
			
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			Yakupov media conference call if anyone wants to listen to it: 
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			10-07-2016, 08:16 PM
			
			
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			10-07-2016, 08:17 PM
			
			
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			Yakupov pick was a Debacle of Monumental Proportions. Katz's thumbprints all over this one. Too bad it went so spectacularly sour, because it discourages more owner interference. (See Ballard, Harold, TML)
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-07-2016, 08:18 PM
			
			
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			10-07-2016, 08:18 PM
			
			
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			If you want an excellent companion piece to your reading of reactions to the Yak deal I encourage you to read "value of Griffin Reinhart" on HF.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-07-2016, 08:20 PM
			
			
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				This appears to be an actual Yakupov quote from a Blues reporter: 
 
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Haha. I'm instantly a Nail Yakupov fan.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-07-2016, 08:21 PM
			
			
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				Unfair to Dipietro. He was at least good until he was injured. If he didn't get hurt repeatedly, he probably would have been a top 10 starter in the league through the back half of the 00's 
			
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Although, trading Luongo and then making the DiPietro pick made it bad no matter what.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-07-2016, 08:22 PM
			
			
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			Has Katz's son been reached for comment?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-07-2016, 08:24 PM
			
			
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			10-07-2016, 08:24 PM
			
			
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				Unfair to Dipietro. He was at least good until he was injured. If he didn't get hurt repeatedly, he probably would have been a top 10 starter in the league through the back half of the 00's 
			
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Dipiertro had one season where he didn't suck.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-07-2016, 08:24 PM
			
			
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				I wonder if this means Ty Rattie is available or may get waived. Yakupov pushes him down the depth chart. 
			
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