10-07-2016, 03:06 PM
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#101
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Tron_fdc
He runs the risk of ending his career up there if it turns into another tire fire.
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He runs that risk here with what will likely be less ice time / games played.
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10-07-2016, 03:10 PM
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#102
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Tron_fdc
I know we all dream about getting rid of Wideman, but would Wideman waive his no trade to go play in that wasteland up north?
I guess he would get Mcdavid to help pad some stats on the PP, but I'm not sure that's enough if I'm him. He runs the risk of ending his career up there if it turns into another tire fire.
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Thought about that in this discussion a couple days ago and I think he would. Petey Chai would sell him on all these young dynamic forwards he gets to play and pass to, the PP time he'll get that he won't in Calgary. The potential for a bounce back season and one more NHL deal in the summer is higher in Edmonton than Calgary for Wideman.
This deal makes sense for both sides. If Yakupov is a wash, Flames can cut him loose July 1st.
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10-07-2016, 03:10 PM
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#103
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
He runs that risk here with what will likely be less ice time / games played.
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True, but at least he would be contributing to a playoff team here. 2nd unit PP, fill in top line PP if there's an injury.
Up north he's contributing to a team trying (??) not to draft top 5, who brings players in to ruin their careers.
I dunno. I guess it's a lateral move but I'm still not playing up there if I'm him.
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10-07-2016, 03:12 PM
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#104
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Cranbrook
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tron_fdc
True, but at least he would be contributing to a playoff team here. 2nd unit PP, fill in top line PP if there's an injury.
Up north he's contributing to a team trying (??) not to draft top 5, who brings players in to ruin their careers.
I dunno. I guess it's a lateral move but I'm still not playing up there if I'm him.
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10-07-2016, 03:14 PM
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#105
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tron_fdc
I know we all dream about getting rid of Wideman, but would Wideman waive his no trade to go play in that wasteland up north?
I guess he would get Mcdavid to help pad some stats on the PP, but I'm not sure that's enough if I'm him. He runs the risk of ending his career up there if it turns into another tire fire.
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Wideman would get top pp time and possibly 2nd pair minutes in Edmonton. He wold be arguably their best offensive Dman.
For the Flames they still lack RW depth and as of today they do not have a winger to play on the top line. Chaisson has been horrible and Brouwer looks to have a home in the Bennett line.
Deal makes a bit of sense but still unlikely due to the rivalry.
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10-07-2016, 03:21 PM
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#106
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
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Don't get me wrong, I would do that trade in a second (I actually *gasp* like Yakupov....)
I guess I would hope Edm brings him in, he scores 15 goals and signs a giant 5 year boat anchor extension essentially handicapping their ability to sign Draisaitl and Mcdavid.
Dare to dream.
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10-07-2016, 03:34 PM
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#107
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Calgary
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Don't want to go off topic, but is Widemans NTC valid after (if) he waived it right now to go to a team. Or once he waives it, is it done for good?
For example purposes only: *If* he waived to go to Edmonton, would he then still have final say where he goes next, or could Edmonton trade him at the deadline, to anyone, without his consent?
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10-07-2016, 03:47 PM
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#108
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CP's Fraser Crane
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I personally would rather have Reinhart over Wideman if I had a choice of dman that can't skate.
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10-07-2016, 03:47 PM
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#109
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by stang
I personally would rather have Reinhart over Wideman if I had a choice of dman that can't skate.
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Said nobody ever.
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10-07-2016, 04:04 PM
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#110
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CP's Fraser Crane
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i don't want either 
Plus I don't want to see Yak lighting it up with the Flames
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10-07-2016, 04:08 PM
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#111
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by stang
i don't want either
Plus I don't want to see Yak lighting it up with the Flames |
I don't think Yak will be lighting it up with anybody, but I can certainly understand Oiler fans not wanting to take the risk of sending him to Calgary and then having that happen.
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10-07-2016, 04:16 PM
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#112
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by JonDuke
Don't want to go off topic, but is Widemans NTC valid after (if) he waived it right now to go to a team. Or once he waives it, is it done for good?
For example purposes only: *If* he waived to go to Edmonton, would he then still have final say where he goes next, or could Edmonton trade him at the deadline, to anyone, without his consent?
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I think technically the NTC doesn't follow the player unless the other team agree's (and it's usually a condition for agreeing to waive).
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10-07-2016, 04:18 PM
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#113
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Parallex
I think technically the NTC doesn't follow the player unless the other team agree's (and it's usually a condition for agreeing to waive).
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Only if it hasn't kicked in yet can they choose not to honour it. Otherwise they still have it.
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10-07-2016, 04:29 PM
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#114
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I don't think Yak will be lighting it up with anybody, but I can certainly understand Oiler fans not wanting to take the risk of sending him to Calgary and then having that happen.
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It would be kind of like a Baertschi situation...the biggest risk about that trade was that he went to a direct rival. It may be like the Baertschi situation where the Flames could offer the best asset in return, and the Oilers wouldn't have too much of a choice.
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10-07-2016, 04:39 PM
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#115
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Table 5
It would be kind of like a Baertschi situation...the biggest risk about that trade was that he went to a direct rival. It may be like the Baertschi situation where the Flames could offer the best asset in return, and the Oilers wouldn't have too much of a choice.
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You're assuming that Oilers management wouldn't act like children though. I would put money on 'cut off the nose to spite the face' before I would bet on the Oilers being pragmatic.
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10-07-2016, 05:09 PM
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#116
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Threadkiller
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: 51.0544° N, 114.0669° W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Table 5
the Flames could offer the best asset in return, and the Oilers wouldn't have too much of a choice.
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How would the oilers know though?
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10-07-2016, 05:13 PM
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#117
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by ricosuave
How would the oilers know though?
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The Oilers may be idiots, but I assume they would talk to other interested parties (assuming there are any) to gauge value.
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10-07-2016, 05:26 PM
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#118
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Jim Matheson @NHLbyMatty
I'm also hearing from good sources Blues are front-runner to trade for Yakupov not the Blackhawks. No word what Edm would be getting
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