No more Alberta Beef at Earl's

[peter12]

Originally Posted by jammies

This is also why I sew my own clothes out of "found" fabric I obtain in dumpsters.

You deluded sheeple.

You must be extremely talented.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Locke

"It has to be slaughtered while you whisper sweet nothings in its ear and then singing Happy Birthday so it doesnt know whats coming."

Yes...but it still gets slaughtered. The end result remains the same, which really seems like the important part of the discussion.

I sincerely doubt the Cow is in Bovine Heaven glaring down disapprovingly about how we tricked it with the candles and balloons and the Happy Birthday song only to wind up giving it a pneumatic piston to the brainpan.

I recall reading that humanely slaughtered cows are supposed to produce better beef because animals that aren't humanely slaughtered can release certain hormones which can negatively affect the taste. I don't know how much truth there is to that though.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by troutman

The Sklar Brothers to a great bit around the odd name of Ruth's Chris.

Where is Chris, and what has Ruth done to him?

Not to #### on a Sklar bit but, Ruth Fertel bought Chris' Steakhouse and the building burned down. She had already bought a second property and moved everything to the new location. She was prevented by the purchase agreement to use the name in any other location so she just named it Ruth's Chris to ensure everyone knew it was her restaurant. She also thought the name was stupid.

[shermanator]

Don't kid yourself Jimmy, if a cow ever got the chance he'd eat you and everyone you cared about!

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by codfather

It's funny you ask, apparently Creekstone Farms, the new supplier for Earls, is 100% halal beef. So there you go I guess... And as mentioned, halal is hardly a humane method of slaughter which shows that Earl's decision and explanation is nothing more than a PR move.

http://muslimeater.com/2015/06/09/ev...f-being-halal/

Well the word halal isn't mentioned on the Creekstone website but let's blame earls anyway.

From the Grandin site on halal slaughter:

Ritual slaughter is slaughter done according to the religious requirements of either the Jewish or Muslim religious faith. The animal is slaughtered, without being stunned, with a razor sharp knife. When the cut is done correctly, the animal appears not to feel it. From an animal welfare standpoint, the major concern during ritual slaughter are the stressful and cruel methods of restraint (holding) that are used in some plants. Progressive slaughter plants use devices to hold the animal in a comfortable, upright position. Unfortunately, there are some plants which use cruel methods of restraint such as hanging live animals upside down. At Grandin Livestock Systems, we believe that the practice of hanging live cattle and calves upside down should be eliminated. For both humane and safety reasons, plants which conduct ritual slaughter should install modern upright restraining equipment. There are many different types of humane restraint devices available.

[automaton 3]

Indiscriminate use of antibiotics I understand could be a valid concern.

Sometimes the animal needs a shot of antibiotics to survive though. I'm having trouble seeing how that is inhumane or somehow makes that cow unfit to eat.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by peter12

You must be extremely talented.

Division of labour is the basis on which civilization exists. Cooking your own food is barbarism.

[Frequitude]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Are people this protective about other ingredients, or just beef?

Have any of you ever boycotted a restaurant because their produce, alcohol, poultry, table linens, dishes, light fixtures etc weren't supporting local suppliers?

It seems like the entire place could be "made in china", as long as they don't F with your Alberta beef!

Just the beef. Though if we had a well known Alberta Table Linens industry and brand we were proud of then it would be just the table linens.

[codfather]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Well the word halal isn't mentioned on the Creekstone website but let's blame earls anyway.

Not on their main site but if you go to their store you'll find a number of halal steaks available.

http://store.creekstonefarms.com/usd...mignon-steaks/


I'm not going to debate or condemn halal slaughter, I just find Earls Restaurant's claim that the move was for "humane" reasons to be shallow in light of this. There are numerous sites that discuss Creekstone Farms and their halal status.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by codfather

Not on their main site but if you go to their store you'll find a number of halal steaks available.

http://store.creekstonefarms.com/usd...mignon-steaks/


I'm not going to debate or condemn halal slaughter, I just find Earls Restaurant's claim that the move was for "humane" reasons to be shallow in light of this. There are numerous sites that discuss Creekstone Farms and their halal status.

Still not sure that the point is?

So the producer of their beef sells halal beef, which according to both Temple Grandin and Certified Humane is ok as long as it is done according to a certain set of standards.

What's the problem again?

[troutman]

What if the beef was grown in an Alberta lab?

http://fortune.com/2016/02/02/lab-grown-memphis-meats/

"The Second Domestication".

[Looch City]

At a wedding in Iran like 20 years ago, I witnessed (half witnessed since they hid the kids away) my grandpa slit a goats throat and eventually cut off its head. He then brought it over to the window and showed it to me like it was an everyday thing haha.

As is tradition of course.

[CroFlames]

Can anyone definitively say how the beef is slaughtered in Alberta vs this new Kansas supplier?

[blueski]

Wonder if Dine and Dashing would be seen by the judge as a political protest in this case. No probably not. Still might go and just send the steaks back after a couple of bites. CPuck Jihad where we all go at the same time and do this?

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by blueski

Wonder if Dine and Dashing would be seen by the judge as a political protest in this case. No probably not. Still might go and just send the steaks back after a couple of bites. CPuck Jihad where we all go at the same time and do this?

What a dumb idea.

[codfather]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Still not sure that the point is?

So the producer of their beef sells halal beef, which according to both Temple Grandin and Certified Humane is ok as long as it is done according to a certain set of standards.

What's the problem again?

Earls is sourcing their beef from Creekstone Farms for "humane" reasons. Halal is not humane. That is the point.

Your quote from Temple Grandin's site states that the "animal appears not to feel" the cut. This is not proof that it is any more, or even equally humane, to the pneumatic pistol form of slaughtering cattle. All that quote, especially the part you bolded, shows is a "best form" for a less humane method of slaughter.

The reason I brought this up originally is that lazypucker asked about halal steaks and as it turns out, Earls might fit that bill.

I guess the problem, since you're wondering, is that this is a shady PR move by Earls despite their claims of "humane reasons". Albertan's have always been proud of their cattle industry and with Earls being an Alberta restaurant chain, this is a smack in the face to all Albertans and the added stink of hypocrisy doesn't help any.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by codfather

Earls is sourcing their beef from Creekstone Farms for "humane" reasons. Halal is not humane. That is the point.

Your quote from Temple Grandin's site states that the "animal appears not to feel" the cut. This is not proof that it is any more, or even equally humane, to the pneumatic pistol form of slaughtering cattle. All that quote, especially the part you bolded, shows is a "best form" for a less humane method of slaughter.

The reason I brought this up originally is that lazypucker asked about halal steaks and as it turns out, Earls might fit that bill.

I guess the problem, since you're wondering, is that this is a shady PR move by Earls despite their claims of "humane reasons". Albertan's have always been proud of their cattle industry and with Earls being an Alberta restaurant chain, this is a smack in the face to all Albertans and the added stink of hypocrisy doesn't help any.

Few things.

I didn't bold it, the original site did.

Temple Grandin and Certified Humane both think that halal is humane.

You have absolutely no evidence that Earls is using halal meat.

Earls is based in Vancouver.

You have no evidence this is just a PR move, and calling it stinking hypocrisy and a smack in the face is quite dramatic.

[polak]

Originally Posted by blueski

Wonder if Dine and Dashing would be seen by the judge as a political protest in this case. No probably not. Still might go and just send the steaks back after a couple of bites. CPuck Jihad where we all go at the same time and do this?

lol if the steak tastes better than it did when it was Alberta Beef, I'll probably go more often.

[Jordan!]

Originally Posted by blueski

Wonder if Dine and Dashing would be seen by the judge as a political protest in this case. No probably not. Still might go and just send the steaks back after a couple of bites. CPuck Jihad where we all go at the same time and do this?

That's a sane idea..

Beef is beef, I've had steaks all over Europe, The USA and Canada and find there is no difference at all in flavor or texture. Supporting local is always good though but Alberta beef is no better than any other.

[blueski]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

What a dumb idea.

Yeah and I was totally serious.

I do care enough to just not go there anymore. The Keg, Moxies, Cactus club, and so on instead of Earls. These places are mostly the same and I'll just pick the one that doesn't go out of its way to not support our province.