04-07-2016, 12:45 AM
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#101
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Lifetime Suspension
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Yeah we need a poll. I'm curious to know the actual numbers. Seems people are divided on the idea and the player.
I think as pointed out by a previous poster, if we add Matthews and a real starter like a Bishop, if things are looking good then he's someone you'd make a phone call about.
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04-07-2016, 12:50 AM
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#102
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
At this point all he has is his world class shot. We can do better.
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We can do better such as? The Finns? Possibly, if they come in guns-ablazing on the top line.
Okposo? Cap and term would scare me if he was willing to sign here.
Backes? See above. Has the exact same production as Iggy this year.
Kind of strange that it seems a lot of people wouldn't mind taking on Jagr who is much older. He doesn't play the speed game either. So what's the difference from Jagr and Iggy at this point of their career?
If all Iggy provides is his world class shot, that is something we have absolutely none of aside from maybe Monahan. Plus, he provides physicality which we all can agree is also lacking on this team.
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04-07-2016, 01:51 AM
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#103
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Victoria
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After reading the thread I am left wondering if its not the unequivocally NO crowd who aren't stuck in the past.
No one is suggesting we would acquire Iggy to carry the team. I am pretty sure most here understand that ship has sailed but the suggestion is IF we were contending would you add him to help for a playoff push.
Personally I agree with Poe's first response. Depends on so much that we don't know now but if circumstances were right.... for me its a no brainer.
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04-07-2016, 01:52 AM
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#104
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Calgary, Canada
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Lots of fighting going on in this thread but some posters aren't looking at the total fit wither with him or not.
Speed: Never really had a ton to begin with and has slowed down even more but other top line guys we have had weren't exactly quick ie: Hudler
Toughness: Isnt a typical power forward anymore but shows some grit. Has been very durable his whole career and ever since he left Calgary. This is a major plus as we don't have a lot of RW depth so if we bringing in a guy or two we better make sure they aren't injury prone. Of course you can't predict injuries but you get the drift.
Power Play: When your a bottom feeder in this category you need to make some changes. I don't remember the stat but I believe Iggy had 10 PP goals and got lots of time too. No matter WHO we bring in, we need a guy who can score on the PP. Iggy or not.
Fit: Play makers that we have and the offensive instincts of our D core and the fit for a offensive skilled type guy makes sense. We never played that style in his time in YYC. It was mosly dump and chase, grind it out, grit style game.
I am not advocating a yes or a no. I would want the best thing for the team but it isn't some absurd idea to think about. The guy can still play and put up points. Strictly goal speaking some guys here have Iggy as done and dead yet probably think Phil Kessel is some sort of sniper with a handful more goals at double the salary.
There are worse options out there and given the nostalgia/ story book ending perhaps that might be enough to tip it into people's favor.
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04-07-2016, 02:49 AM
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#105
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First Line Centre
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It all depends on our RW depth next season. If we're going into October with Frolik & Colborne as our 1st & 2nd line RWers I would be looking at all possibilities, and Iggy still has a bit of gas in the tank.
His commitment to physical fitness and sportsmanship could be something the young guys benefit from.
I dunno, something about it doesn't sit right with me, but from a purely hockey perspective it could work. Who knows, he might be available for a 3rd round pick at the draft?
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04-07-2016, 05:10 AM
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#106
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
He has 21 goals and 45 points. That's more than anyone on the entire Maple Leafs roster. There are about 6 other teams where he'd be top 3 in team scoring.
David Jones had 15 points this year and had value. Iginla has value and is not done.
I feel like a lot of people on CP are saying it's crazy without actually evaluating the practicality of the situation. I doubt the Flames will be safely in a playoff spot by the trade deadline next year. I also doubt that Colorado will be completely out by the trade deadline. But if the right situation arises, Iginla could be a reasonable option.
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Iggy has 21 goals from being force-fed PP time.
He's slow, not particularly strong on the puck, his shot is good but no longer world-class, and he's not nearly as gritty as he used to be. As others have mentioned, he would not be a good fit for Hartley's up-tempo system, but he doesn't offer much to fill in the missing skillsets on this team.
It'd be like the Owen Nolan signing, and Iggy would inevitably be the 3rd line boat anchor/whipping boy.
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04-07-2016, 05:48 AM
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#107
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Facts about 2015-16 Iginla:
- 3rd liner in a non-playoff team, plays about 15 minutes per night
- Worst +/- on his team by a huge margin (closest forward is his linemate Blake Comeau at -9, Iginla is at -22).
- He's a powerplay specialist (13/21 goals on the PP).
- Cap hit of $5.3M
I don't see him as a guy that a playoff team would even want, because he's such a defensive liability. His best use would be on a rebuilding team to draw crowds and put up some goals while waiting for that high draft pick.
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Originally Posted by polak
He's literally better than every forward on this team not named Gaudreau or Monahan.
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Nah. Backlund and Bennett are better with a wide margin, Frolik is clearly better as he's just way more versatile.
Had we not traded a top 6 forward in Hudler, Iginla wouldn't have been a top 6 forward in Calgary this season. Like he wasn't in Colorado. Neither is a playoff team.
Heck, whether or not he's better than Joe Colborne at this point is a matter of taste. The points are about the same.
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04-07-2016, 08:33 AM
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#108
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Franchise Player
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Some of you people really need to invest some time watching some Avalanche games. Iginla is the worst forward on their hockey team. As Itse mentioned, all of those things that used to make him a favorite of people while he is here, he no longer does. He's a slow, one-way player, that is a huge defensive liability. Colorado would love to get his salary off the books just like we would like to get Wideman off the books. Iginla's lack of tools makes him such a poor fit that he would become enemy of the state by the end of his first month with the team. If you put nostalgia aside, there is no reason to even consider Jarome Iginla as a viable player for this hockey team. He has nothing left in the tank and should have retired after his run with Boston.
Someone mentioned that the Flames should offer him a one day contract so he can retire a Flame, like they did with Regehr and Vernon. I don't think it comes to that. Iginla, unlike the other players, has no connection to Calgary. It was a means to an end for him. It was where he lived while he made millions playing a game. When he was traded he had his house sold and packed up before the playoffs began. Doesn't seem like the actions of a guy with any vested interest in the city. I wonder if the Flames extended the offer if he would accept without a guarantee of a jersey retirement? As I said, he has no connection or vested interest in the city or the team. He moved on and I think he is the type of guy that doesn't look back.
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04-07-2016, 08:53 AM
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#109
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by MarkGio
Both are very young guys. Not exactly a veteran, former Art Ross, 4X all time star, 2X gold medalist, etc. I'm not saying Iginla should be captain, but he could be a veteran presence for a young forward group.
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Well he is doing wonders for that young forward group in Colorado.
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04-07-2016, 09:00 AM
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#110
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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When I look league wide for a one year contract for similar dollars to Wideman to swap for a forward who's overpaid ...Iginla is the one that pops up. I suspect there are some other 5 million dollar forwards with one year deals left if I looked a bit harder, but that sort of amuses me.
This deal doesn't fit for Colorado though unless they really cheap out and let Tyson Barrie get away.
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04-07-2016, 09:00 AM
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#111
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Franchise Player
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Would you bring Iggy back at the deadline if playoffs bound?
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Originally Posted by New Era
Some of you people really need to invest some time watching some Avalanche games. Iginla is the worst forward on their hockey team. As Itse mentioned, all of those things that used to make him a favorite of people while he is here, he no longer does. He's a slow, one-way player, that is a huge defensive liability. Colorado would love to get his salary off the books just like we would like to get Wideman off the books. Iginla's lack of tools makes him such a poor fit that he would become enemy of the state by the end of his first month with the team. If you put nostalgia aside, there is no reason to even consider Jarome Iginla as a viable player for this hockey team. He has nothing left in the tank and should have retired after his run with Boston.
Someone mentioned that the Flames should offer him a one day contract so he can retire a Flame, like they did with Regehr and Vernon. I don't think it comes to that. Iginla, unlike the other players, has no connection to Calgary. It was a means to an end for him. It was where he lived while he made millions playing a game. When he was traded he had his house sold and packed up before the playoffs began. Doesn't seem like the actions of a guy with any vested interest in the city. I wonder if the Flames extended the offer if he would accept without a guarantee of a jersey retirement? As I said, he has no connection or vested interest in the city or the team. He moved on and I think he is the type of guy that doesn't look back.
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I agree with the first paragraph but where did that second paragraph come from? Bitter!
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04-07-2016, 09:19 AM
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#112
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Iggy was a great player who won lots of games by himself at the start of his career, but he was a cancer in the dressing room near the end with the flames. Please hang up his jersey but let him poison any other team but us.
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04-07-2016, 09:34 AM
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#113
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Official CP Photographer
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PL15
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I wouldn't want to give up that much. If he came cheap then yes. He could be a decent depth piece.
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04-07-2016, 09:43 AM
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#114
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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I'm fine with some fans clinging to the dream but at the end of the day that's all it is as the next time Iginla puts on a Flames jersey it will be on a one day contract where he announces his retirement. The reality is that the chances of him playing for the Flames next season is as high as Hiller coming back.
Last edited by Erick Estrada; 04-07-2016 at 09:46 AM.
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04-07-2016, 10:13 AM
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#115
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Undermined the coach last time he was here by refusing to play a 2 way game. Nope. Flames legend, but don't want him back.
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04-07-2016, 10:30 AM
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#116
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by edslunch
I agree with the first paragraph but where did that second paragraph come from? Bitter!
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No bitterness towards Iginla at all. He's the same as any former player and I thank him for his service to the community while he was here. I just don't get into the glorification of people who don't live in the community year round. Look at the beating Murray Edwards has taken since making the move to England, and I can tell you he has done a helluva lot more Calgarians than any hockey player will ever do. I think people that do good in the community in the name of the Flames, as part of the Flames, and do so long after their days are done, are the ones that impress me. I was impressed that Regehr came back and signed the one day contract and elected to make Calgary his home. Those guys impress me.
I see Iginla like MacInnis. A guy who enjoyed his time here, but wasn't a Calgarian or became a Calgarian. When he retired he didn't likely think about Calgary or anything about the Flames because that chapter of his life is over. Iginla isn't a Calgarian and never was a Calgarian. He spent his off seasons elsewhere and this wasn't his home. I would just be very surprised to see him come back to Calgary and sign a one day contract since that portion of his life is over and be moved on very quickly. So you'll have to excuse me if I don't buy into the sentimentality of Iginla's time here. Great hockey player, but I think Calgary was no different than Pittsburgh, Boston or Denver for him. They were just a place to play for him.
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04-07-2016, 10:34 AM
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#117
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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These deadline deals don't turn out particularly well at the best of times. No thanks to Iggy. Happy to have him back to retire the number or whatever the hell they do now.
The connection to the past is obvious, but in terms of helping a playoff team? I doubt he would make a difference. Should we be be clamouring to pick up Hartnell? Vanek? I hope not.
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04-07-2016, 10:38 AM
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#118
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Originally Posted by Torrie the Whaler
he was a cancer in the dressing room near the end with the flames
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How so? Because of the country club atmosphere?
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04-07-2016, 11:09 AM
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#119
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
How so? Because of the country club atmosphere?
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See Jiri's remark.
Flames fans deride the Oilers all the time for living in the past. Jarome's time has come and gone.
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04-07-2016, 11:16 AM
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#120
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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What...we're in the playoffs?
For reals though...no thanks.
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