I'm not the one that posted the original criticism. I'm just arguing it's validity.
It's not valid.
Your POV make little sense to me. Posting anonymously here means more than posting under your name on Facebook? Your religion rant that most people glossed over somehow impacted more people than someone changing their Facebook photo or typing out "thoughts and prayers."? You sure seem to have an extra-generous view of your impact on the world.
How about we grow up and stop criticising the very insignificant gestures that other people offer? It's like donating a penny to charity. It might be meaningless, but if enough people do it? It has an impact. I know that first-hand. That penny is worth more than the nothing you're willing to give, so save your criticism.
This was taken from Brussells Airport immediately post-attack (ie. there's still smoke). There's no gore but presumingly some of the people pictured are deceased.
The narrative that these terrorists want to create is Islam vs Everybody Else. When people start talking about the "Muslims" being the problem, oir "Islam" being the problem, they are helping the terrorists create that narrative.
With you so far.
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Once that interpretation of events becomes the norm, if you are of the Muslim faith, you will be forced to choose either the side of your brethren, or of those who want to deport/marginalize/kill you.
This is what I'm emphasizing as a particular crazy, scary perspective. You really think if anyone criticizes the faith of Islam that anyone who identifies as Muslim is going to either join with, or behave similarly to, ISIS and other violent extremists? I think you're absolutely wrong, but partly, I'm just being optimistic. The alternative is horrifying.
But even if it were true, I'd say that no belief system, religious or otherwise, is above criticism.
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We already know what causes terrorism - alienated groups, humanity's love of violence, and the human failing of credulity. It's not Islam, it's not Machine-Gun Jesus, it's not militant tree-huggers, it's not even godless socialism in our precious bodily fluids. It's people letting their fear and anger drive them to simple solutions and finding someone to blame, and reducing discourse to the same level makes us no better.
No, we don't, and I fundamentally disagree with all of this. What causes someone to want to martyr themselves in the name of God is more complicated than JUST scripture, but scripture plays an integral role. The perpetrators of these attacks just won't stop telling you what their underlying motivation is, and yet you refuse to listen to them. Really, you've got your head in the sand.
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10 years ago I was there for a study program. Several friends ended up staying there and working for the EU and other agencies. I just found out today that one of them was even at the airport today! He evacuated safely though!
No but it's a hell of a good start. Obviously psycho's will exist forever, it's biology, but a large portion (if not the majority) of these attacks would go away if people didn't think they would get a second crack at life after death.
One of ISIS' main goals is to eradicate Christianity and Judaism.
So ISIS is doing a "hell of a good thing" for our world. Good guys ISIS always helping out.
One of ISIS' main goals is to eradicate Christianity and Judaism.
So ISIS is doing a "hell of a good thing" for our world. Good guys ISIS always helping out.
This is actually untrue. ISIS's goal is to create a caliphate, and eventually, to have that caliphate encompass the entire world. Under Sharia, Jews and Christians are dhimmi, people of the book, and as such are actually permitted in the Caliphate provided that they pay a jizya, which is a sort of tax you pay to have the Muslim state protect you when you're not a Muslim. Some scholars would tell you that Hindus and Buddhists also count. Sura 2:62 of the Qur'an for example says:
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Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans [before Prophet Muhammad] - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve.
This stuff is at once simpler and more complicated than it appears at first blush.
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One of ISIS' main goals is to eradicate Christianity and Judaism.
So ISIS is doing a "hell of a good thing" for our world. Good guys ISIS always helping out.
This is hate speech you know that right?
"any writing, sign or visible representation that advocates or promotes genocide or the communication of which by any person would constitute an offence under section 319"
so yeah... you kind of broke the law advocating for the death of a race. Be careful, someone might call you out in real life about your BS.
"any writing, sign or visible representation that advocates or promotes genocide or the communication of which by any person would constitute an offence under section 319"
so yeah... you kind of broke the law advocating for the death of a race. Be careful, someone might call you out in real life about your BS.
What race was he advocating the death of? Do you mean the second sentence? Because that's pretty obviously sarcasm...
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"The Code provisions are intended to prohibit the public distribution of hate propaganda. Private speech is not covered by the provisions: the act of promoting hatred can only be committed by communicating statements other than in a private conversation, and inciting hatred is only prohibited if statements are communicated in a public place. Online communications that advocate genocide or willfully promote or incite hatred are likely to fall within the provisions because the Internet is a public network"
Seeing as this is a public forum you are open to legal action. Good luck arguing against it.
"any writing, sign or visible representation that advocates or promotes genocide or the communication of which by any person would constitute an offence under section 319"
so yeah... you kind of broke the law advocating for the death of a race. Be careful, someone might call you out in real life about your BS.
Uh I'm pretty sure you missed the sarcasm.
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There's something to nitpick there - it's likely not people who went from the west to join ISIS as foreign fighters and then returned home. They likely never left home. We'll find out, but that'd be my bet based on patterns to date.
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