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View Poll Results: Which Goalie Do You Most Want To See The Flames Add For Next Season?
Antti Raanta 25 7.06%
Ben Bishop 91 25.71%
Frederik Andersen 101 28.53%
Darcy Kuemper 5 1.41%
James Reimer 72 20.34%
Jhonas Enroth 1 0.28%
Cam Ward 3 0.85%
Karri Ramo 2 0.56%
Al Montoya 4 1.13%
Jimmy Howard 4 1.13%
Kari Lehtonen 4 1.13%
Michael Hutchinson 4 1.13%
Other 38 10.73%
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Old 03-21-2016, 12:03 PM   #101
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Taking on Bishop could be really risky. With the new equipment regulations coming into force, goalies like him will suffer the most.
On goalie commentator said the big guys with new equipment will still be that much bigger than the little guys with new equipment. In fact, small guys can be using big equipment to make up the difference even more than big guys. So unless the big guys totally unathletic, they won't suffer any more than little guys, who have to make the same athletic saves but also have less to work with.
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Interesting stats on the soft goals (if they existed) .

It would also be interesting on how many "soft" goals go in on lack of defensive effort, not forcing the guy wide enough, leaving the zone too quick, not contesting the rebound, coming out of the corner unimpeded.

Hamilton is playing as advertised over March. 10 games 10 pts. Everyone would be happy and amazed if that is the level he plays at.

On how many highlights of Flames goals against is Hamilton on the ice but not in the play. He is not getting beaten but has not worked to get into position.


He still is only +1 in March..... the secondary players that he get matched up against are playing him even up one-on-one.

Engelland, still rated as a pile of crap pylon, is playing the exact same ice time as Hamilton and is +2.

How come the goalies are that much better with Brodie on the ice to the tune of +14. Brodie has the skill to play the up-tempo game and does not play lazy in his own zone. He works his butt off and gets back into position when the puck is turned over.

Defense is work and this year the Flames are not working near as hard as they did last year.
Soft goals go in from weird angles because goalies are lazy in their positioning and/or they lose focus. Ortio got beat over his shoulder last week and Hrudey remarked on the broadcast that if he just stands up, the puck hits him. A goal that results from a blown assignment isn't going to be called soft very often, even if you'd like the goalie to have it.

Regarding the 4+ goals stat - go through the schedule. As of December 31, the Flames had given up 4 or more goals in 21 games. They did it 9 times in October alone.

As of today, the Flames have given up 4+ goals in 33 games. What. The. ####. That's not Dougie Hamilton's fault. It's a systemic issue, but I don't know how you could see 4+ GAA in 33 games and conclude the goalies are helping.

The goalies are also better with Brodie on the ice because Brodie is one of the 10 best players at his position in the world. And Brodie plays with Giordano, who is one of the 15 best players at his position in the world. Hamilton played most of the year with Russell. As much as you love your advanced and imaginary stats, are you going to tell me you believe playing with one of the worst advanced stats D in the game didn't hold a 22-year old back?


Maybe ask the question when Dougie is 25, because in a straight-across comparison of Hamilton and Brodie at 22, Hamilton is the better player. Brodie didn't even really become Brodie until last year. So give it a rest. If TJ was a 9th overall pick, he'd have Dougie's contract.
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Old 03-21-2016, 12:14 PM   #103
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Soft goals go in from weird angles because goalies are lazy in their positioning and/or they lose focus. Ortio got beat over his shoulder last week and Hrudey remarked on the broadcast that if he just stands up, the puck hits him. A goal that results from a blown assignment isn't going to be called soft very often, even if you'd like the goalie to have it.

If you replay it, he didn't actually accuse Ortio of a soft goal. He actually said (and he's been saying this for a while) that Ortio was playing a style they are teaching goalies, and he didn't understand or agree with it because if Ortio just stood up in that example, etcetera. He said this a lot about Hiller too, even last year.

Hiller is just way overdoing it this year, but even least year there'd be goals over the shoulder that apparently goalie coaches live with, because of percentages or something. It actually meets with something one of my friends, who's kid is a pretty good Midget age goalie, said about what they are teaching
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Has the league changed their tune on expansion draft eligibility? Last I read the expectation is first and second year players will be exempt and Gillies would therefore be fine.

Edit: Just read more and it's two years of pro hockey which includes AHL. He might be available then depending on what they count this year as. Still, if he really the guy an expansion team will take? There will be other options out there.
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Old 03-21-2016, 02:04 PM   #105
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Has the league changed their tune on expansion draft eligibility? Last I read the expectation is first and second year players will be exempt and Gillies would therefore be fine.

Edit: Just read more and it's two years of pro hockey which includes AHL. He might be available then depending on what they count this year as. Still, if he really the guy an expansion team will take? There will be other options out there.
This was a year of pro hockey. Next year will be a year of pro hockey. That's two. So he shouldn't be available.
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This was a year of pro hockey. Next year will be a year of pro hockey. That's two. So he shouldn't be available.
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Old 03-24-2016, 07:01 PM   #107
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I know it's just one game but watching the Leafs light up Andersen I reaaallllyyyy don't like what I see from this guy. I don't trust him one bit I hope the Flames stay away!

He's got the highest vote in the poll too.
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Old 03-24-2016, 07:03 PM   #108
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I know it's just one game but watching the Leafs light up Andersen I reaaallllyyyy don't like what I see from this guy. I don't trust him one bit I hope the Flames stay away!

He's got the highest vote in the poll too.
Calgary and Toronto are the most likely teams to be interested in Anderson.

He's just doing the Sam Bennett on them so they go away.
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I know it's just one game but watching the Leafs light up Andersen I reaaallllyyyy don't like what I see from this guy. I don't trust him one bit I hope the Flames stay away!

He's got the highest vote in the poll too.
Reimer was just as bad tonight. Gotta look at the whole sample size and not just 1 game.
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I mentioned it earlier in this thread that it would be nice if the Flames could pry Scott Darling away from the Blackhawks. What would it take?
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I mentioned it earlier in this thread that it would be nice if the Flames could pry Scott Darling away from the Blackhawks. What would it take?
Not interested. He's been good for 2 years in front of a cup calibre team, but his pedigree does not spell NHL starting goalie.
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Plus Chicago has no reason to trade him as he's a quality back up on a near league minimum deal. Once his contract is up and he starts making more money they might look at different options but for now there is no incentive.
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I know it's just one game but watching the Leafs light up Andersen I reaaallllyyyy don't like what I see from this guy. I don't trust him one bit I hope the Flames stay away!

He's got the highest vote in the poll too.
I agree. When I have watched Andersen I don't see any greater skill set than a Ramo. I see a guy who's numbers look better than they are because of the team in front of him. I also see a guy that doesn't play well under pressure. Big pass.
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Not interested. He's been good for 2 years in front of a cup calibre team, but his pedigree does not spell NHL starting goalie.
Same could have been said of Cam Talbot.

Fact is that Darling has a great save percentage and he has all the tools to be a good goaltender on any team.
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Darling is a horrible option. Not sure about the rest of you but I want someone more proven to be the starter next year. In my opinion Ortio should be retained as a backup and a legit number 1 brought in. Darling to me is too risky and the Flames could be the same or worse off next year
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I'm somewhat surprised that Hutch has such few votes. He will be expendable likely by 2017.
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I'm somewhat surprised that Hutch has such few votes. He will be expendable likely by 2017.
And has proven nothing.
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I'm somewhat surprised that Hutch has such few votes. He will be expendable likely by 2017.
Neither Pavelec nor Hutchinson look like quality starters and that's a big part of why the Jets are as bad as they are. Flames need a starter.
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Neither Pavelec nor Hutchinson look like quality starters and that's a big part of why the Jets are as bad as they are. Flames need a starter.
Ok I see.

I thought you could use Hutch as a backup. He has a impressive record throughout his career, in terms of backup goalies making the league minimum.

You can have Pavelec for free.

Don't even consider asking for Connor "the Franchise" Hellebuyck.
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