02-03-2016, 04:18 PM
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#101
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Caged Great
Here's a quick summary of how Nakladal plays.
He's mainly a defensive d-man that is very effective at using his stick to separate the puck from the opposing forward. He also tends to cut rushing forwards off at the blueline, forcing them to dump the puck in. Not afraid at all with throwing a hit. Reliable in his own zone, very similar to both Engelland and Smid in that regard.
The difference between him and those two defensemen is his booming slapshot. He is used as Stockton's Dennis Wideman/Dougie Hamilton on the power play. Give it to him at the point and he'll rifle a shot that's closer to 100 MPH. He's not the most offensively dynamic player on the ice, but he isn't particularly bad at it either and there might be more there than he's shown. He was primarily a defensive player in his days prior to the Flames signing him.
All in all, he is a steady #6 type of guy and will likely slot in without much notice in terms of mistakes once he is given a shot. May end up freeing up a spot for Treliving to move another player between now and the deadline.
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How's he at getting that booming shot to the net? That was Wideman's strength last year and weakness this year.
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02-03-2016, 04:43 PM
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#102
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
How's he at getting that booming shot to the net? That was Wideman's strength last year and weakness this year.
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Pretty good, although he only has a pair of goals this season. He has never been a "scorer" on defense, with only 6 goals from 2011-12 until last season.
He does have a dozen assists in 35 games. Quite a few tipped shots. Decent puck distributor on the PP.
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02-03-2016, 04:57 PM
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#103
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
I think we need to see Granlund play some Wing before talking about shipping him off. He has every skill to develop into a Jiri Hudler.
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id love to try him on the Rw with the top line see how he does. Maybe he can use his shot effectivly with gaudreu feeding him
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02-03-2016, 05:07 PM
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#104
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Scoring Winger
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The biggest problem Granlund has, in my eyes, is that he can't seem to get into the open areas in order to get a good shot off properly. He tends to skate right into opposing players and the puck will be knocked away from him or his shot will get deflected or blocked. Does anyone else notice this?
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02-05-2016, 11:56 AM
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#105
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Doesn't sound like Hartley will play Nakladal until injuries force him to or the Flames are eliminated from playoffs
Kristen Odland @Kristen_Odland
Asked why they wouldn't slot Nakaladal in: “We’re not in a situation to see how a guy would do,” said Flames head coach Bob Hartley.
Kristen Odland @Kristen_Odland
"We have no fear; if we need to play Nakladal, we would … if we need to, we need to.”
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02-05-2016, 11:58 AM
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#106
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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That's not good for Nakladal at all. Enjoy popcorn I guess...
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02-05-2016, 11:59 AM
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#107
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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That makes sense to me. If the Flames drop further out, then it's time to look at prospects (and Nakladl isn't even really one of those, given his age). But right now Hartley is going to go with who he knows rather than experiment.
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02-05-2016, 12:00 PM
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#108
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Was there any actual point to signing Nakladal if that's how you're gonna operate? Might as well have signed another Aaron Johnson to an AHL deal. So frustrating especially as you see teams like the Blackhawks gift guys like Panarin and Trevor Van Riemsdyk minutes to see what they have. Panarin didn't sign with us for this very reason.
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02-05-2016, 12:08 PM
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#109
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Franchise Player
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We have another game tomorrow vs the Canucks. If Nak doesn't get into the VAN game I'll start feeling mad. Will reserve judgement in the meantime.
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02-05-2016, 12:09 PM
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#110
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Was there any actual point to signing Nakladal if that's how you're gonna operate? Might as well have signed another Aaron Johnson to an AHL deal. So frustrating especially as you see teams like the Blackhawks gift guys like Panarin and Trevor Van Riemsdyk minutes to see what they have. Panarin didn't sign with us for this very reason.
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I never thought Nakladl was more than depth insurance. He's 28, not 23 like Panarin. And is it so shocking that Panarin signed with the Cup winners as opposed to the Flames (which he heavily considered anyway)?
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02-05-2016, 12:11 PM
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#111
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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I understand Hartley is coaching to win games. We just have to hope that Russell gets moved at the deadline and eventually Bob's hand is forced.
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02-05-2016, 12:13 PM
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#112
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#1 Goaltender
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I was hoping he would see some icetime. Hopefully in the near future.
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02-05-2016, 12:15 PM
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#113
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
I never thought Nakladl was more than depth insurance.
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Why wouldn't they sign a veteran like Corey Potter for depth insurance instead of a guy they scouted from the other side of the world who's never played a game in this league?
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He's 28, not 23 like Panarin. And is it so shocking that Panarin signed with the Cup winners as opposed to the Flames (which he heavily considered anyway)?
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Well, on paper the Flames should have had more opportunity for him as we've got a worse roster especially at top 6 forward. But the Blackhawks told hm he'd be playing with Patrick Kane (which he has, since day one) while we likely told him he could rot on our AHL squad and maybe get called up someday.
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02-05-2016, 12:18 PM
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#114
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Doesn't sound like Hartley will play Nakladal until injuries force him to or the Flames are eliminated from playoffs
Kristen Odland @Kristen_Odland
Asked why they wouldn't slot Nakaladal in: Were not in a situation to see how a guy would do, said Flames head coach Bob Hartley.
Kristen Odland @Kristen_Odland
"We have no fear; if we need to play Nakladal, we would
if we need to, we need to.
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Could you also infer that the team intends to showcase Smid and Engellend as much as possible between now and the trade deadline as the other factor driving ice time for Nakladal?
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02-05-2016, 12:21 PM
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#115
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Why wouldn't they sign a veteran like Corey Potter for depth insurance instead of a guy they scouted from the other side of the world who's never played a game in this league?
Well, on paper the Flames should have had more opportunity for him as we've got a worse roster especially at top 6 forward. But the Blackhawks told hm he'd be playing with Patrick Kane (which he has, since day one) while we likely told him he could rot on our AHL squad and maybe get called up someday.
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If the Blackhawks promised him Kane as a linemate, before he'd done anything, that was foolish and they made a dumb promise that happened to pay off. Would you have promised Sven a top 6 role?
A veteran like Potter would cost way more than Nakladl. For the same AHL/emergency call-up role.
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02-05-2016, 12:25 PM
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#116
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Why wouldn't they sign a veteran like Corey Potter for depth insurance instead of a guy they scouted from the other side of the world who's never played a game in this league?
Well, on paper the Flames should have had more opportunity for him as we've got a worse roster especially at top 6 forward. But the Blackhawks told hm he'd be playing with Patrick Kane (which he has, since day one) while we likely told him he could rot on our AHL squad and maybe get called up someday.
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Yeah the orange Julius guy said the flames told Panarin it'll be a cold day in hell before they give young or new players a chance. No young players. No rookies. Definitely no small skilled players. They are just not welcome on the Calgary Flames. Ever.
Other than that he was going to sign for sure.
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02-05-2016, 12:31 PM
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#117
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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At the time, as well, the Flames were looking at top line wingers of Gaudreau, Hudler (off a career season), Bennett and Frolik. On the other hand, the Hawks were busy shedding Saad and Sharp. And they hadn't signed Artisemov or Tikhonov yet. Arguably, the Hawks did have more room in the top line.
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02-05-2016, 12:32 PM
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#118
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
I never thought Nakladl was more than depth insurance. He's 28, not 23 like Panarin. And is it so shocking that Panarin signed with the Cup winners as opposed to the Flames (which he heavily considered anyway)?
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I don't think he was signed for depth insurance. I think the Flames wanted to see what he can do. We have Aaron Johnson for depth insurance and seven NHLers on one-way contracts, none of which are really a bargain.
Having said that, I'm curious about Nakladl but it's not like he has amazing stats or there's a huge expectation that he'll be a game-breaker. Aaron Johnson has better stats. People have been upset Smid is sitting. Engelland has been steady if not spectacular. I think he'll get his chance once it becomes even clearer that the Flames won't be making the playoffs but it's reasonable to let him sit for the time being.
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02-05-2016, 12:32 PM
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#119
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Franchise Player
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Treiliving will need to force Hartley to play him. It's funny though, Smid and Englleland were both scratch able not long ago, but he can't sit one of them now to see what he's got in Nakladal?
Oh well.
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02-05-2016, 12:34 PM
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#120
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Franchise Player
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I really wanted one of Smid or Engelland traded traded before, now I really, REALLY want one of them traded.
In fact, trade Russell too for good measure, and get Wotherspoon, Kulak or Kylington up here too.
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