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Old 12-09-2015, 01:28 PM   #101
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It's unlikely, but things could play out in a way that there could be a 6 way tie for second in the Pacific by the end of Saturday's games.

If San Jose & Vancouver lose their games in regulation; Arizona & Anaheim each have an OTL; and Calgary & Edmonton win their games, every team in the Division except for LA would have 28 points with either 29 or 30 games played.
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It's unlikely, but things could play out in a way that there could be a 6 way tie for second in the Pacific by the end of Saturday's games.

If San Jose & Vancouver lose their games in regulation; Arizona & Anaheim each have an OTL; and Calgary & Edmonton win their games, every team in the Division except for LA would have 28 points with either 29 or 30 games played.
I think Vancouver, Edmonton, Arizona, LA and Anaheim are irrelevant (the first 3 because they will be tanking, the last two because they will be ahead of the Flames no matter what), so it comes down to beating out SJ...
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You can't just assume that teams that are tied or ahead of us aren't a threat cause of their reputation.

Arizona and Edmonton have pretty much the same shot as we do at this point.
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Old 12-09-2015, 03:26 PM   #104
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We need a playoff pace snake!!

I think this year 90 points might secure a spot in the pacific.
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You can't just assume that teams that are tied or ahead of us aren't a threat cause of their reputation.

Arizona and Edmonton have pretty much the same shot as we do at this point.
Well, I am assuming that none of these teams will beat out SJ or Anaheim (regardless of whether they are a threat to the Flames), so they are irrelevant as far as the Flames playoff hopes are concerned. They are relevant if we are talking overall standings/lottery seeding.
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Old 12-09-2015, 03:32 PM   #107
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You can't just assume that teams that are tied or ahead of us aren't a threat cause of their reputation.

Arizona and Edmonton have pretty much the same shot as we do at this point.
Nope, it's a pretty simplistic analysis to just look at the current standings and say that either of those teams have the same shot as the Flames.
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Old 12-11-2015, 06:02 AM   #108
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You can't just assume that teams that are tied or ahead of us aren't a threat cause of their reputation.

Arizona and Edmonton have pretty much the same shot as we do at this point.
Reputation has nothing to do with it. Past performance does.

Arizona and Edmonton have zero, nil, squat, bupkis history of recording a winning record over a season, or even a substantial part of a season, with anything closely resembling their current rosters. The Flames produced a winning record for a full season with the vast majority of their current roster. All the players who played at least 20 games for last year's Flames are still on the team, except Glencross, Byron, and Diaz. None of those three were key contributors, and their replacements (Frolik, Bennett, Hamilton) are at the very least equal to them in ability.

None of this guarantees that the Flames will play as well as they did last year. But it shows that it is a possible outcome; whereas there is nothing in their past records to show that it is possible for Edmonton or Arizona.
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Old 12-11-2015, 06:56 AM   #109
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We do not really have a chance at playoffs our goals for and goals against diffrerential is very poor which is always a indicator of a teams strengh, we are still letiing in a boatload of goals against every game and barely get by goaltending lately in wins . The top line cannot continue to be the sole factor of offence and we are sure to have some injuries coming as well. I am realistic and playoffs this year will be a miracle .When in the history of the NHL has a team who has allowed the most goals against made the playoffs.

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Old 12-11-2015, 09:18 AM   #110
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We do not really have a chance at playoffs our goals for and goals against diffrerential is very poor which is always a indicator of a teams strengh, we are still letiing in a boatload of goals against every game and barely get by goaltending lately in wins . The top line cannot continue to be the sole factor of offence and we are sure to have some injuries coming as well. I am realistic and playoffs this year will be a miracle .When in the history of the NHL has a team who has allowed the most goals against made the playoffs.
Just off the top of my head 1982 LA Kings
1987 the second worst team in ga made the playoffs
1988 LA made the playoffs with the worst gaa


I'm obviously concerned about the goaltending, and I'm obviously concerned about the special teams. But as a old coach once said "At the end of the day, nobody gives a crap about how you win, its whether or not you win". The fact of the matter is that the Flames are finding ways to win games in spite of their goaltending

The Flames are now sitting 3 points back of 3rd in their division, after an incredibly disastrous start, they also have the third best record over the last 10 games in the West. The teams that we have to worry about which are the top 3 teams in the pacific and in the Wildcard aren't playing all that well right now. The two pacific division teams aren't playing all that well. Anaheim is still struggling and Arizona is sliding because Mike Smith has gone cold.

I think you're really making the wrong statement here, the playoffs are far from far away. But the concern or question that needs to be answered is can this team win on the road. If they can find a way to do that, they'll continue to claw their way back into it.
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