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Old 10-22-2015, 04:25 PM   #101
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Just got on the train at City Hall; the stop I was just bagging on regarding jaywalkers. You can tell CT's on high alert after yesterday (especially at "high risk" spots like this one I'm sure), because they've got a dude in a neon yellow vest planted there, and Calgary Transit cars parked on either side.

Seems like every train I saw arriving/departing for the 5min or so I was there are all blasting their horns through the intersection too. CT's not taking any chances today.


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Seems like every train I saw arriving/departing for the 5min or so I was there are all blasting their horns through the intersection too. CT's not taking any chances today.
I have a friend who works for CT. She mentioned that every time there is a train/pedestrian accident, there is a 99% chance that CT "loses" that driver as an employee, as they can't cope with the stress/ptsd and move on to a different job/company.
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Old 10-22-2015, 06:49 PM   #104
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Alright Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages! Stand at attention and be awed at Locke's patented Master Plan!

I call it the Aggressive Social Safety plan!

Do we understand the real reasons why we as a society are having trouble with train safety? Is it the prevalence of social media and our lack of ability to ignore our phones or music or newspaper or whatever? That we so immersed in our little worlds that we continiously ignore the real world to our own detriment?

No!

Is it 'Big Train's' crippling social agenda to brainwash us into eventually living on trains like that movie Snowpiercer? Great film by the way, I highly recommend it.

No! Although I am wary of the train Cartel!

The real issue is that we as a society have made trains too safe!

Yes friends, we have over-safeified trains! Over-safeified is not a word. Yet. But it is now!

We take trains for granted, they are so predicable, generally slow and harmless appearing that we have lost all respect for them and their power. And right now friends, the trains are winning.

So here is Locke's patented Aggressive Social Safety plan! Yes. ASS Plan for short.

We need to respect trains again, and the only way to do that quickly and stop the train-induced bloodshed is through fear!

We have to fear trains again as the mighty metal murder monsters that they truly are!

We've got to paint them aggressively, like fighter planes! Get the teeth and the claws and the angry eyes in there! Get some flames on the side, have them all painted red and black, make them mean looking!

And then every time someone is killed by a train we have to put a stick-man beside the doors on every car like a fighter plane's kills! So when people get on they realize that this train is a killer!

"Oh man, this train has 3 kills, I'd better be paying attention or its going to get me too!"

We can give train drivers cool call-signs and have a scoreboard at every station!

"Oh no! The next train is RailSlaughter's train! That guy is a maniac, he was last year's champ! I'd better have my crap together around this lunatic!"

Problem. Solved.

You're welcome.
This all sounds great, but it's missing one thing.

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This all sounds great, but it's missing one thing.

I know I said terrifying but terrifying still has a budget! Do you have any idea what that guy charges??
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Old 10-23-2015, 04:12 AM   #106
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Well China can print money
I'm sure that Calgary can afford to install solutions to those problems. Most of the solutions in Shanghai are not incredibly high cost.
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I'm sure that Calgary can afford to install solutions to those problems. Most of the solutions in Shanghai are not incredibly high cost.

I guess those only solve the death by entering the path of the train from the platform. Something more workable would need to be developed for the interactions at the level crossings adjacent to roads. Something that would prevent both people and cars at these sites could be developed. Not sure what though. For car, could at least put the barriers down sooner in advance of the train approaching.. For pedestrians, the life gate idea was good. Prevents you from simply pushing it open if you walk into it, and takes some deliberate act to move it once it is lowered down.
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Old 10-23-2015, 06:56 PM   #108
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I don't know what all the stations are like in Calgary, but looking at the video someone posted of a guy walking out in front of a train in this thread it looks like a solution should be quite simple. The station design in Shanghai means that nobody ever has to walk across tracks, but the prevention from entering the track area via the platform is basically just a big glass wall with automatic sliding doors in it that are controlled to only open when the train is stationary. I'm sure something like that wouldn't be too costly for the city.
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Isn't the train in Shanghai also entirely underground?
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Old 10-23-2015, 07:29 PM   #110
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Winter and melt freeze cycles make automation outside quite expensive.

I really think that the getting hit be the second train phenomenon is what needs to be dealt with.
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I think I have seen this slowed down even more, and you can see that the guys boot actually stopped the other person from taking a corner of the frame/decking to the head. May or may not have been fatal but most certainly would have needed stitches.
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Isn't the train in Shanghai also entirely underground?
Much of the train is underground, some is at ground level and other portions are elevated. I'm not saying the whole system is comparable, but that a simple solution such as a barrier with automatic doors should be pretty easy to implement. It's not like keeping people and trains separated on tracks should be an otherworldly engineering challenge or obscenely expensive.
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I think I have seen this slowed down even more, and you can see that the guys boot actually stopped the other person from taking a corner of the frame/decking to the head. May or may not have been fatal but most certainly would have needed stitches.
The condictor didnt save him from any means . He kicked him in the head because he was tired of people taking pics to close to the moving train. The train appears closer in the video but the conductor was acually leaning off the train . The kid was approximately 4 and a half feet away from it.
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The condictor didnt save him from any means . He kicked him in the head because he was tired of people taking pics to close to the moving train. The train appears closer in the video but the conductor was acually leaning off the train . The kid was approximately 4 and a half feet away from it.
I think we can incorporate this into my plan! If you're being an idiot around a train the conductor is allowed to kick you in the face.

So you've got to keep your head up or you could get kicked in it by passing conductors.
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Can't find the other post. Apparently there's been a train vs C-train accident up by Sunridge in the past 15 minutes or so. Posted on another of my groups.
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Calgary Transit ‏@calgarytransit 27m27 minutes ago
#202BLUELINE We have shuttle service in place from Rundle station to Marlborough. Trains will not stop at Rundle station.

Calgary Transit ‏@calgarytransit 45m45 minutes ago
#202BLUELINE There are delays in service due to an accident at Rundle station. This will impact trains going to the Core. *j

Calgary Transit ‏@calgarytransit 49m49 minutes ago
Accident on NE line near Rundle Stn. Expect delays. *MD
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Another idiot driver trying to beat the train,
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Old 11-02-2015, 09:57 AM   #118
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Car is in super bad shape. Hope the driver is ok but honestly I can't see how they would be.
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Old 11-02-2015, 09:59 AM   #119
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Driver should have known better, It's the Ram train. For ramming.
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The condictor didnt save him from any means . He kicked him in the head because he was tired of people taking pics to close to the moving train. The train appears closer in the video but the conductor was acually leaning off the train . The kid was approximately 4 and a half feet away from it.
Maybe my trigonometry is a little rusty but unless the conductor is like 12 feet tall, I have a hard time believing that.
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