[PGT] Flames Fall to Oilers Both Games

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Those watching EDM game, did McDavid standout?

He had a spurt or two which he sped up fast, but was nullified very quickly including a play from Russell that took him out of the play. If it wasn't the fact that he is supposed to be the next one, you would have not noticed him much of the game. He did make a small nifty pass to Draisaitl for the tying power play goal, but Draisaitl had no business being wide open alone in front of the net. Oilers fans were rather annoyed that Eichel had scored first which would be the start of a Hall / Seguin type discussion (of course before the magic assist). It will take some time for McDavid to adjust, but he's the type of player that is smart and can do so.

Originally Posted by buyakasha

How'd the kids do in EDM? Was watching the home game.

Kylington and Anderssen (and Wilson for that matter) looked very strong and seemed like veterans out there. They were not out of place at all, and they played well on offence too. I think Kylington and Anderssen will be seen as steals of the draft 3-4 years down the road. Both seem to have qualities of top 4 defencemen. Granlund was great, Mangiapane was not very noticeable.

Flames were clearly having an impact on Edmonton's game, but those undiciplined penalties cost them. You don't give a team 7 power play chances and expect to not get burned. Wideman gave a big crosscheck in the back of Yakupov to send a message, but those plays cost the game (preseason).

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by jar_e

I thought Hamilton looked pretty damn rusty to be honest. A lot of bobbles and bad first passes.

I felt like a few of his passes were a bit over powered too. It's ok, he's still adjusting to the system.

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Nurse also looks like he chomps down, albeit missing the fingers, right after.

Yeah, that entire scrap was bizarre. I read a comment that says the beard rub thing might have been Nurse trying to pull the strap on the helmet.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by flylock shox

Don't kid yourself. I'd love to have this guy on the Flames. Plays a smart game, very smooth skater, and clearly plenty tough

I didn't see a smart game. He has the tools with his size and skating, but that's it. The "smart game" part seems to be perpetuated fiction because he's a high draft pick. We saw our own version of that kind of myth between 06 and 09.

I did however, see a smart game from Griffin Reinhart. But he doesn't seem to have a very high ceiling.

[getbak]

I don't understand why Klinkhammer didn't get booted for being the third man in on the fight.

[Walter Reed]

How did Reinhart & Klefbom look?

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

I also eant to make it clear that Nurse is a bigger goon then Smith. Look at his OHL fight card .

The last guy Nurse fought was Rasmus Andersson at the youngstars tourney. Ya Rasmus andersson who has never fought befor and 4 years younger. Smith tried to fight him then and he refused. The Fight tonight Smith left him no choice but to oblige tonight. If Nurse would have step up then this wouldn't of happened tonight.


Nurse reminds me of a younger version of Andrew Ference and Kevin Bieska. Pick your spot unless a bigger man catches you and you cant run away with your tail between your legs.

The problem is that you are basing your entire opinion of Nurse on one fight in a rookie tournament.

http://dropyourgloves.com/Fights/Fig...x?Player=84046

Nurse had only two fights last year in the OHL.

One against 6'6" 225lb Mccarron, and another against 6'4" 220 Callaghan.

The year before he fought Auger who is 6'7" and 231 lbs.

Anderson is the smallest guy that Nurse has ever fought.

[AC]

I have no problem admitting I hate that the Oilers drafted Nurse, at the time he seemed exactly what they needed and he's looked good in the few limited seeings I've had of him.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

The problem is that you are basing your entire opinion of Nurse on one fight in a rookie tournament.

http://dropyourgloves.com/Fights/Fig...x?Player=84046

Nurse had only two fights last year in the OHL.

One against 6'6" 225lb Mccarron, and another against 6'4" 220 Callaghan.

The year before he fought Auger who is 6'7" and 231 lbs.

Anderson is the smallest guy that Nurse has ever fought.

Wait, your link must be inaccurate. It says tonight's fight was a draw, but according to numerous Oiler fans in this thread Nurse "kicked his ass".

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

Wait, your link must be inaccurate. It says tonight's fight was a draw, but according to numerous Oiler fans in this thread Nurse "kicked his ass".

I thought it was pretty even.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by AC

I have no problem admitting I hate that the Oilers drafted Nurse, at the time he seemed exactly what they needed and he's looked good in the few limited seeings I've had of him.

I think its the whole idea that "Nurse destroyed Smith" is what is rubbing people the wrong way...it was an even fight and neither guy even went down. Smith got cut (possibly by his own visor) and skated away without issue

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

I thought it was pretty even.

Me too and even though I quoted you, what I said wasn't really directed at you. You have been very level headed tonight.

[getbak]

How did Ramo look in Edmonton? I thought Hiller and Ortio both looked solid in the game here. Nice head's up play and well-deserved assist by Hiller on the goal.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by getbak

How did Ramo look in Edmonton? I thought Hiller and Ortio both looked solid in the game here. Nice head's up play and well-deserved assist by Hiller on the goal.

Weak goal, but after that he really settled in and looked very good. He played 2 complete periods and McDonald started the 3rd iirc

[Walter Reed]

Ramo looked good as did McDonald IMO.

[LanceUppercut]

Originally Posted by Walter Reed

Ramo looked good as did McDonald IMO.

First goal was a bit of a soft one though. I was hoping those were worked out of his system over the summer.

[The Yen Man]

To me, Nurse looks about the same as Phaneuf. Big, mean, but makes some boneheaded plays.

[Walter Reed]

It was a first game, so some rust is to be expected one would think. After both teams first goals the tenders played well.

[robbie111]

Originally Posted by getbak

How did Ramo look in Edmonton? I thought Hiller and Ortio both looked solid in the game here. Nice head's up play and well-deserved assist by Hiller on the goal.

Let in 1 softy that he might have been a bit screened on but played really well other than that.

From the game, the Flames got to work a lot on PK (not going to blame the refs...much) and Granlund was the best Flame tonight and actually outplayed Backlund tonight.

I still think Granlund goes down to the AHL due to being able to clear waivers, but he is light years better than Raymond or Bollig and I wouldn't mind seeing him on the wing for a game or two during preseason.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by AC

I have no problem admitting I hate that the Oilers drafted Nurse, at the time he seemed exactly what they needed and he's looked good in the few limited seeings I've had of him.

Totally agree

[kn]

Originally Posted by robbie111

I still think Granlund goes down to the AHL due to being able to clear waivers, but he is light years better than Raymond or Bollig.

I'd rather move Granlund to wing instead of playing Raymond. Raymond is such a soft player who is easy to knock off the puck. Maybe someone in camp can impress enough to make Mason expendable.