[News] Oilers hire Chiarelli as Hockey Ops President and GM. MacTavish and Lowe stay in org

[Mattman]

Two steps forwards....
(McDavid, Chiarelli)

...one step back (______?)


Don't get too comfortable Edmonton

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Um, Yakupov was a consensus first overall pick. The only other guy they could reasonably have taken was Ryan Murray and Murray hasn't exactly been lights out at the NHL level. You take what the draft gives you when you're picking first overall. I don't fault him for that decision at all.

Consensus yes but he wasn't a universal pick for #1. Moreover, he wasn't so far above other players in that draft that the Oilers should have picked him, ignoring the long-term needs of the organization.
I would have picked Reily or dealt the pick.
Yak was a poor first overall selection. I said it then. I say it now.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Consensus yes but he wasn't a universal pick for #1. Moreover, he wasn't so far above other players in that draft that the Oilers should have picked him, ignoring the long-term needs of the organization.
I would have picked Reily or dealt the pick.
Yak was a poor first overall selection. I said it then. I say it now.

Oilers would have been screwed no matter what they did in that draft.

Ryan Murray who the scouts were supposedly leaning towards has missed 120 games in the last three seasons.

Galchenyuk missed all but 2 games in his draft year, and while looking better than Yakupov is also playing wing.

Rielly wasn't a realistic pick at number 1.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Oilers would have been screwed no matter what they did in that draft.

Ryan Murray who the scouts were supposedly leaning towards has missed 120 games in the last three seasons.

Galchenyuk missed all but 2 games in his draft year, and while looking better than Yakupov is also playing wing.

Rielly wasn't a realistic pick at number 1.

You're missing the trade option, which I think, even at the time, most people thought they should have done.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Yeah, because, when you've got a bunch of young, talented highly-touted highly selected but underperforming players with rumours that they have character issues and aren't adjusting well to pro hockey life...

YOU WANT THE GUY WHO DID THE SEGUIN TRADE.

How is this not a win for Calgary Flames fans?

I will grant you that it was a poor trade talent-wise, especially long term.

However...

Tyler Seguin was traded more for him being a problem within the team dynamics and being a poor culture fit for the Bruins. Not to mention the persistent rumors of poor preparation and regular partying instead of being ready to play. Seguin has not shown to be a responsible pro so far, so even though he's a dynamic player who can put up a lot of points, which is valuable in and of itself, he was thought to be a distraction to the group which can keep a team from reaching its potential.

Trading Seguin wasn't the wrong idea, but it's hard to get equal talent back for a player of his talent level, so in that sense you are always likely to lose that trade.

I'll take the bulk of what Chiarelli has done over 1 or 2 poor moves that all GMs make, even the best of them.

[LTH]

Originally Posted by Royle9

"BATTLE OF ALBERTA" being TM'D should be up there.. and then of course consequently suing someone for using it or w/e the hell they did

What?

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by MattyC

You're missing the trade option, which I think, even at the time, most people thought they should have done.

Trade would have been a good option.

It would have been interesting to see what the first would have fetched.

[dash_pinched]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

On the plus side, I've always thought he looked like the bad guy from the chipmunks movies

lol - I think Eberle looks like Alvin, so it could be a good fit.

[XeO]

Originally Posted by LTH

What?

The Oilers trade marked the phase "The Battle of Alberta" and then sued some other sports event that used it. I don't have a link etc, I just remember hearing about it

[cannon7]

Does Lowe have no shame? Just walk away.

[SuperMatt18]

Well this weekend is off to a poor start.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Um, Yakupov was a consensus first overall pick. The only other guy they could reasonably have taken was Ryan Murray and Murray hasn't exactly been lights out at the NHL level. You take what the draft gives you when you're picking first overall. I don't fault him for that decision at all.

We know the Flames had Galchenyuk rated #1 and the Leafs had Rielly rated #1. I think but haven't seen any quotes that CBJ had Murray #1. So how was Yakupov consensus? We aren't even sure half the league had him rated #1 and I doubt they did.

[Hackey]

Pretty good situation to step into for Chiarelli. He's got quite a few quality pieces to work with and obviously McDavid to add to that. Also has the 16th overall pick this year. Smart decision by the Oilers to go in this direction.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Trade would have been a good option.

It would have been interesting to see what the first would have fetched.

I think at the very least you probably fetch a legitimate top 4 dman (who could maybe be pushed for top 2 minutes) and a later 1st rounder.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

We know the Flames had Galchenyuk rated #1 and the Leafs had Rielly rated #1. I think but haven't seen any quotes that CBJ had Murray #1. So how was Yakupov consensus? We aren't even sure half the league had him rated #1 and I doubt they did.

That draft was terrible so you were pretty much screwed with whoever you picked.

[Mattman]

Also as much as I hate the Oilers getting McDavid and Chiarelli, it's comforting there's at least one human being in that organization that can help McDavid grown as a player and surround him with good teammates.

Let's just hope McDavid skips town after his Entry level deal finishes

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by greyshep

Frankly I am just tired of hearing Oiler news during our playoff run.

Get lost losers.

Some of this timing is optics, scheduled the morning after the Flames might have advanced to the second round is not completely coincidence. Not saying it's a big part of it... I just know if I were them, I would have scheduled it for today, in part for that reason.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

I will grant you that it was a poor trade talent-wise, especially long term.

However...

Tyler Seguin was traded more for him being a problem within the team dynamics and being a poor culture fit for the Bruins. Not to mention the persistent rumors of poor preparation and regular partying instead of being ready to play. Seguin has not shown to be a responsible pro so far, so even though he's a dynamic player who can put up a lot of points, which is valuable in and of itself, he was thought to be a distraction to the group which can keep a team from reaching its potential.

Trading Seguin wasn't the wrong idea, but it's hard to get equal talent back for a player of his talent level, so in that sense you are always likely to lose that trade.

I'll take the bulk of what Chiarelli has done over 1 or 2 poor moves that all GMs make, even the best of them.

errmmm you just described some players on the Oilers......

[speede5]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Oilers would have been screwed no matter what they did in that draft.

Ryan Murray who the scouts were supposedly leaning towards has missed 120 games in the last three seasons.

Galchenyuk missed all but 2 games in his draft year, and while looking better than Yakupov is also playing wing.

Rielly wasn't a realistic pick at number 1.

And yet he is one of the untouchables that Toronto is rebuilding around.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Hackey

That draft was terrible so you were pretty much screwed with whoever you picked.

Thus it would've been a good year to deal down and take Trouba