If that hit was worth 5 or 15 games Johnny wouldn't be ok right now.
Disagree, if you flying elbow attack someone in other sports you get discipline, regardless of outcome. I'm not disagreeing with what he would get from the league, disagreeing with what he should get. Simply sick of dirty plays, it destroys the entertainment factor for me. If you don't feel the same fine, but the reaction people have to contrary opinions is kind of uncalled for.
No it's not worth 15 games in the NHL right now but I think it should be, the discipline should be ratcheted way up because that's the only way dirty unecessary hits that endanger the skilled players careers are reduced. It's clear the present scenario has little to no deterrent on a lot of these players in the heat of the moment as they seemingly can get away with almost anything. No more flying elbows, no more sucker punches after clean hits, no more death threats and no more crosschecking guys in the numbers at high speed; none of it should be in hockey.
Well, it's true. Johnny's ok, Corrado got 5 and a game, as a first time offender the NHL would more than likely be fine with that.
As a first time offender Corrado would have to do something pretty malicious and have Johhny sustain a severe injury to warrant anywhere near a 15 game suspension.
In the NHL these days, if the player on the receiving end doesn't miss a game there really isn't much of anything in the way of punishment, if at all.
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Disagree, if you flying elbow attack someone in other sports you get discipline, regardless of outcome.
That was not a flying elbow. IMO, of course.
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I totally agree. I've felt for a long, long time that the NHL's punishments are basically a joke for the most part. If first time offenders who have blatantly elbowed someone in the head received 5 games or more, than I would agree with many comments here. But the NHL doesn't. So Corrado wouldn't either.
Well, it's true. Johnny's ok, Corrado got 5 and a game, as a first time offender the NHL would more than likely be fine with that.
As a first time offender Corrado would have to do something pretty malicious and have Johhny sustain a severe injury to warrant anywhere near a 15 game suspension.
In the NHL these days, if the player on the receiving end doesn't miss a game there really isn't much of anything in the way of punishment, if at all.
I agree that he likely wouldn't get 5 games, but your post sounded like you were suggesting he shouldn't get 5 games based on a lack of injury.
I can agree for sure that semantics are debatable. Clothesline, flying elbow, backhand chop or whatever you want to call it, the video evidence is 100% clear. A real flying elbow would be a top rope turnbuckle leap through the air I suppose.
Well, Corrado's skates left the ice and the elbow made contact with the face, which to me is a flying elbow. What do you consider characteristic of a flying elbow in hockey then?
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Well, Corrado's skates left the ice and the elbow made contact with the face, which to me is a flying elbow. What do you consider characteristic of a flying elbow in hockey then?
Someone who is skating towards the opposing player and leaves his feet to throw an elbow.
Corrado was skating backwards, and I'd have to watch the video again but I don't remember him leaving his feet.
Still a pretty stupid play.
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^^ I would agree. If someone is going to run one of the smaller players. I would be surprised if McGratten or any other 'Enforcer' sitting on the bench isn't going to change their mind.
It won't change Matt Cooke's mind, but maybe when Matt Cooke's teammate who'll actually have to fight the angry Brian McGrattan says 'hey... Not tonight' he'll listen.
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If this is the over-reaction we see from Johnny getting bumped in a prospects game, Im not looking forward to the board explosion from when he actually gets checked by an NHLer
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He's a hockey player, he knows he'll get hit. He actually sounded kind of relieved in the post game interview that he's finally in a league where his teammates can actually stick up for him physically.
If this is the over-reaction we see from Johnny getting bumped in a prospects game, Im not looking forward to the board explosion from when he actually gets checked by an NHLer
Bumped? It was a vicious elbow/forearm to the head. What does that have to do with him getting hit (cleanly) in the NHL?
I suspect there would always be a strong reaction to such a dirty play.
google NHL elbowing suspensions. They vary one to five game and are significantly worse than what happened. As far as the NHL is concerned it is a done deal. Five and a game was adequate for the hit. The after the game media stuff didn't help Corrdaro. If it carries over it will be at the AHL level because it was primary players at that level involved. Corrdaro may get a talking to (face wash or little shove) after a scrum in the preseason but that IMO would be the extent we will see this preseason. Hockey players do have long memories with stuff like this. Islanders waited a good five months to get at Phaneuf for the Okposo hit in preseason as their first shot was when he was traded to the leafs. Although the injury was more severe in that situation.
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I like the idea of getting them back on the scoreboard, but it is frustrating when bums cheapshot your star players regardless of who they are. You can find many examples of this happening in the NHL.
IMO, when players like Iginla can play 20 years in the NHL and be known for playing 'tough' hockey all those years despite never 'elbowing' a guy in the head, it seriously makes me question the thought process that goes through the heads of these players that end up cheapshotting guys. Even if they don't actually go in the ice with the intent of elbowing the guy, it is strange that when the guy tries to avoid the hit, and does so for the most part, the reaction is to stick the elbow out and catch him in the head.
Again, pre-pre season game, and not really NHL jobs on the line since it isn't actually training camp. Just a better way for the teams to figure out where their prospects are in terms of development. Why, why put yourself into the position where you could seriously set back the career development of a fellow player? I just don't get it. Play hard, play tough, but play safe. Somewhere along the line, these players aren't being taught how to play controlled hockey, and the instinctively react to an emotional and competitive game by trying to hurt guys that make them look dumb for 2 seconds.
Perhaps not worth the suspension, but worrisome that guys still have a problem controlling their damn hits when concussions and head injuries have become such a serious problem.
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If this is the over-reaction we see from Johnny getting bumped in a prospects game, Im not looking forward to the board explosion from when he actually gets checked by an NHLer
Pretty easy to see other poster responses as overreactions when this is how you summarize a cheap shot.
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Someone should just crosscheck Corrado in the face whenever he plays against us. If any fanbase could understand a completely over the top act of revenge, surely it would be Canucks fans.
