Does Byron get suspended?

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by driveway

Can you seriously watch the replays of this hit and come to the conclusion that Byron doesn't put his hands in the middle of Sedin's back and push him into the boards? I mean... really? You really actually see that?

Yes, I can. the replays you are pointing to are all obstructed views. Look at the replay from the 7 minute mark of your clip. Byron is pushing through the shoulder.

However, he is pushing through the backside of the shoulder. That remains a blindside hit, and that is why the major penalty was warranted. But it was not a hard hit, nor was it made with malicious intent. It was a bad hit on a player who put himself into a dangerously vulnerable position with bad results. Major penalty yes, but not deserving of a suspension. But we'll see what the wheel of justice spins there.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Has no history before, and I really don't think Daniel expected that from a player like Byron. In a way, he saw him coming but didn't realize how hard Byron was going to hit. It would be stupid if Byron gets suspended, it wasn't intentional.

[Galakanokis]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Vancouver arena has those lights on the stantions in the glass. He hit his head on one of those...curious if those are any different than the normal ones to cause the injury.

No way. They are just a string of LED lights, very soft and bendable, like a rope. All they do is slide up inside the stanchions from the back side.

[19Yzerman19]

Originally Posted by Nehkara

You obviously didn't even watch the hit.

Byron pushes Sedin's left shoulder. He doesn't touch him "in the numbers".

Dude they pause the video with both of Byron's hands right on his numbers. I don't know how you can actually manage to homer your way into an interpretation that contradicts what's clearly on the video.

It wasn't a terrible hit, but this is the NHL, and an illegal hit (because it was from behind and was boarding so it was at least a penalty) that causes an injury to a star player and esepecially because a stretcher came out and the word "hospital" is involved it's pretty much a guaranteed suspension under Shanahan's standard.

Now we see what Patrick Burke does with it.

[MissTeeks]

John Shannon‏@JSportsnet11 mins

Following up on the Byron-Sedin hit last night. There will be no further discipline from the NHL. Penalty on the ice was viewed enough.

[PeteMoss]

I can't imagine Burke's son decides suspensions for the Flames... although I suppose the whole Colin Campbell/Gregory Campbell thing was allowed to fly for a while.


Also anyone who follows the NHL should know he's not going to get suspended. There have been tons of hits worse than that that doesn't don't get suspensions. They'll blame Sedin for not protecting himself/putting himself in that position. Whether or not you agree with it can be disputed but that's the NHL's stance on these types of plays.

[bluck]

Right call imo.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

I can't imagine Burke's son decides suspensions for the Flames... although I suppose the whole Colin Campbell/Gregory Campbell thing was allowed to fly for a while.

Colin Campbell specifically recused himself from any decision involving his son's team. Decisions in those cases were handled by underlings. Also, Stephane Quintal is the new head disciplinarian, I believe, so it would have been his call.

[kermitology]

1:44 of that video above, you see the hit from the reverse angle. Byron lets off and pushes from the top left of Sedin's left shoulder. From behind, yes, but it should not have happened like this. Sedin knew the hit was coming, and for whatever reason didn't prepare for it, then he awkwardly goes into the boards. Byron shouldn't be able to throw that much into Sedin.

I still don't understand how this hit caused so much potential damage to Daniel Sedin. And why on earth would you protect the puck in this case vs protect yourself? If he takes the hit he probably protects the puck anyways. I would have probably done the same thing as Byron in this situation.

[strombad]

I could've seen a game, but I suppose the misconduct equals that. Good call.

[dino7c]

if Kevin Bieksa who was on the ice for the Canucks says it was just a freak thing and not a dirty play I'm not sure why some of you can't drop it

NHL got it right for once

[sureLoss]

nm

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by kermitology

I still don't understand how this hit caused so much potential damage to Daniel Sedin. And why on earth would you protect the puck in this case vs protect yourself? If he takes the hit he probably protects the puck anyways. I would have probably done the same thing as Byron in this situation.

I am thinking that Sedin completely underestimated Byron. I think when he glanced over and saw who he was going into the corner with he let up.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by kermitology

And why on earth would you protect the puck in this case vs protect yourself? If he takes the hit he probably protects the puck anyways. I would have probably done the same thing as Byron in this situation.

This is something that I am seeing more and more often in junior hockey especially, but right up to the NHL. Turning your back to protect the puck is becoming commonplace, and it represents one of the reasons why zero tolerance rules are a bad idea. Players are already exploiting the situation under the grossly mistaken belief that the rules will always protect them. Zero tolerance rules will only make this worse. (to wit: you see a lot more guys skating with their heads down in the OHL than you do the WHL.)

Burke has proposed in the past the allowance of a "bear hug rule" that would effectively allow a limited form of holding in cases like this as a legitimate defensive play. It is probably not a bad idea.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Nehkara

You obviously didn't even watch the hit.

Clearly you didn't either.

Onus is on the player delivering the check.

Byron gets 1 game.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Clearly you didn't either.

Onus is on the player delivering the check.

Byron gets 1 game.

Nope. No extra discipline for Byron.

[IamNotKenKing]

I put this in the other thread, but it should be here. This also moot, now, as those who matter have apparently made their decision.

I think because it was near the corner, it was worse. That is, if it was at the hashmarks, he likely simply falls on this right shoulder, but because the glass starts to curve where the hit occurred, he hit his head into the glass.
Still, in my opinion, it was a hit from the side, with Byron's right hand on the side of the first 2, his left shoulder making contact with D. Sedin's left shoulder, and only drew a penalty because of the result, as shown by the ref not making a call for about 3-5 second after the hit.
Also, my read of Rule 41 - Boarding, requires the player getting hit to be defenseless, which D. Sedin was not in this case.

[Erick Estrada]

NHL obviously didn't want to set a precedent of disciplining clean hits.

[Hockey]

Daniel should have stayed at the hospital longer to try and get Byron a lengthy suspension......





In all seriousness though I thought he would get 1 game, but I guess the 5 and a game are enough.


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[MissTeeks]

Farhan Lalji‏@FarhanLaljiTSN2 mins

Daniel said he tried to lift his head up while on the ice but couldn't. No concussion type symptoms. CT scan was negative. All is fine now