Does that emergency callup thing that getbak was talking about work for the ahl as well?
My understanding of the emergency call up rule from the CHL (OHL, WHL and QMJHL) is that the player can only be called up to the NHL team. They would be permitted to play with the AHL team only after their own clubs season has ended.
To get bodies to play for the Heat, we will need to sign Free Agents from the ECHL or other teams in which the player is considered a Free Agent (i.e. not drafted by an NHL team, under contract to an NHL team or under a SPC/PTO/ATO from an AHL team)
When Sven was called up two years ago, I thought Feaster said they could use the emergency recall in either the AHL or NHL, but I could be misremembering.
Even if they can't, you'd think they could return Knight and Hanowski to Abbotsford then bring Klimchuk and Poirier to Calgary.
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When Sven was called up two years ago, I thought Feaster said they could use the emergency recall in either the AHL or NHL, but I could be misremembering.
Even if they can't, you'd think they could return Knight and Hanowski to Abbotsford then bring Klimchuk and Poirier to Calgary.
I think after doing that with Sven and making it seemed like they rushed him into the team. They'll be hesitant to call up and players from the juniors.
I think the team's just going to have to fight through this stretch until Jones or Stajan or Glencross returns.
At this point, they need to look at using an emergency call-up or a few to bring in Kanzig, Klimchuk, or Poirier.
Taking a top junior guy from his team at the end of the season right as they are trying to fight for seeding to play in an AHL game seems like a terrible idea.
I know there are a lot of Heat fans here and it must be frustrating but you don't take top guys off their junior teams to play for an AHL team. Unfortunately late season call-ups and scrambling to fill a roster are hardships minor league teams face.
The Heat are going to have to wait for CHL seasons to end and NCAA guys to graduate for them to get re-enforcements.
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I'm not happy with the Heat losing by any means, especially after getting accustomed to watching them win and be a top level team, but there have been so many examples of how rushing kids into a higher level of hockey before they are ready seems to set them back that I can accept losing if it means that we aren't mortgaging our future for something that we can ride out.
And as a junior hockey fan, I also don't agree with taking kids away from their WHL/OHL/QMJHL teams because those playoff runs and those championships at that time, mean as much to them and their development as getting the higher level championships. I can't see Gatienau being happy losing the guy who leads the team in points by more then 30 points because we need an emergency rental and he probably won't be on the Flames regular roster. And Regina only has 3 points up on Swift Current for the Division lead and the difference between being seeded #2 in the Playoffs or #6. They are needed more on their junior teams to have a chance at their championships and their awards then we do for a small period of time where, let's face it, the chances of Calgary making the playoffs are slim even if they did come to help and the Heat will probably squeak in still even if everything goes really bad from here on in.
To the best of my knowledge, emergency recalls are only for the NHL. And you have to demonstrate that you've exhausted your options. Flames do have bodies left in Abby, so I doubt they could prove that they need a junior kid.
To the best of my knowledge, emergency recalls are only for the NHL. And you have to demonstrate that you've exhausted your options. Flames do have bodies left in Abby, so I doubt they could prove that they need a junior kid.
I don't believe it's about exhausting all your options. I think you have to make the case that recalling anymore players from your AHL affiliate would be detrimental to their competitiveness.
For example, last season when they did bring in Sven, there was still Kolanos, Walter and some other guys that could've been recalled, but weren't because it would result in essentially folding their AHL squad.
I don't believe it's about exhausting all your options. I think you have to make the case that recalling anymore players from your AHL affiliate would be detrimental to their competitiveness.
Pretty sure it wouldn't be hard to make that case when you have 3 defence playing forward and have lost 8 games in a row when you were just one of the most dominant teams in the league.
Still though, I would not agree with bringing up kids from the OHL/QMJHL/WHL.
To the best of my knowledge, emergency recalls are only for the NHL. And you have to demonstrate that you've exhausted your options. Flames do have bodies left in Abby, so I doubt they could prove that they need a junior kid.
You can recall a junior kid as long as you are in emergency conditions. In order to get to emergency conditions we will have to sustain more injuries.
I would think Baertschi when healthy will be called up before Poirier or Klimchuk.
It really sucks for Abbotsford but there isn't much we can do. Conroy and co need to be grabbing whoever from the ECHL we can.
Not to pile on, but the next two games are against the Utica Comets, who also have had our number all year (2-6 in the season series).
We need help. Fast.
How long is Glencross out for? You have to think that if/when he, Ramo & the grieving Stajan are back in the Flames lineup that the Heat will get a couple of their impact players back.
How long is Glencross out for? You have to think that if/when he, Ramo & the grieving Stajan are back in the Flames lineup that the Heat will get a couple of their impact players back.
Reports out this morning say that Glencross is skating with the team, in a regular full contact jersey, but was not taking line rushes. Hartley says sometime this week so I think that means Hanowski will be back soon. Stajan, I don't think he's returning this year so his spot will be filled by a rookie until mid April. Ramo, there's been no information about his injury or progress so he's a bit of a question mark. And even then, I think MacDonald would be sent down before Ortio, so he's probably gone until mid April too.
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So in these two games the cumulative shots on goal were even but Heat got outscored by 8?
Without having seen the games I can't tell what was worst: our goaltending, defence or scoring?
Our goaltending was terrible. Roy is no good against the Wolves. Pulled 4 times in 5 games against them.
We also ran into the leagues hottest goaltender in Jake Allen the first night and Climie played amazing the second night. Many chances for the Heat, but the Wolves goalies were not letting anything in.
