Forming a CP Band?

[V]

Yeah, I didn't mean to say they sound terrible, but they play terrible. Kinda like spongy drums. Not a great feel.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by troutman

I'm thinking of getting an electronic drum kit to play around on.

Anyone have experience with these?

https://www.long-mcquade.com/departm...Electronic.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_drum

The drum pads themselves are either discs or shallow drum shells made of various materials, often with a rubber/silicone or cloth-like coated playing surface. Each pad has a sensor that generates an electric signal when struck. The electric signal is transmitted through cables into an electronic drum module ("brain" as it is sometimes called) or other device, which then produces a sound associated with, and triggered by, the struck pad. The sound signal from the drum module can be plugged into a keyboard amp (for use in a band performance) or listened to with headphones for silent practice.

My son got a set of Roland drums. The lower end ones use "v-pads" just for the snare - a more realistic head. The higher end ones use them for all the drums. Apparently it makes a big difference.

[troutman]

Thanks for the comments - I live in a duplex style home, so acoustic drums would be too loud. My 12 year old son wants to learn, and I used to play when I was in High School. Looks like these would work well enough for jamming at home (when the neighbors are away) and we probably would not use them at a live gig.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by troutman

Thanks for the comments - I live in a duplex style home, so acoustic drums would be too loud. My 12 year old son wants to learn, and I used to play when I was in High School. Looks like these would work well enough for jamming at home (when the neighbors are away) and we probably would not use them at a live gig.

I live in a townhome with one shared wall.

Have given the neighbors a few bottles of wine over the years for putting up with some noise haha.

[PsYcNeT]

So whatever happened to this attempt at a band?

I'm available to jam, as I've been out of a fulltime band for ~6 months now.

Bass player with 20 years on-stage experience in a multitude of genres. Feel free to use this as an excuse to meet me and punch me in the face for being mean on the internet.

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by troutman

I'm thinking of getting an electronic drum kit to play around on.

Anyone have experience with these?

https://www.long-mcquade.com/departm...Electronic.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_drum

The drum pads themselves are either discs or shallow drum shells made of various materials, often with a rubber/silicone or cloth-like coated playing surface. Each pad has a sensor that generates an electric signal when struck. The electric signal is transmitted through cables into an electronic drum module ("brain" as it is sometimes called) or other device, which then produces a sound associated with, and triggered by, the struck pad. The sound signal from the drum module can be plugged into a keyboard amp (for use in a band performance) or listened to with headphones for silent practice.

The full on Roland set with all mesh pads is pretty good. It's about as real of a feel as electronic drums can offer. I know Pearl offered (might still do?) an electronic kit that had the mesh heads in actual shells. Yamaha makes nice electronic drums as well. Pearl's customer service is as good as it gets.

Electronic drums are easy for recording, for practice with headphones which I think would be a great solution for you, and they provide decent feel and feedback. They can be used live, or some guys supplement their kits with pads inside their acoustic kit to have effects or to trigger whatever during live sets. The brain lets you download future drum kit sounds, effects and instruments. The downside as others have mentioned is the feel isn't quite there, especially for the cymbals. But they are pretty damned good and the nice part is flexibility.

Myself I've never owned a complete electronic set but have played quite a few and prefer the roland pads. If I were to buy one, it's the only way I would go ATM.

If you plan on going with acoustic cymbals or a complete kit, I would very strongly recommend getting quality hats and a ride that you like. If it's just for practice or to learn on there is nothing wrong with budget cymbals but I would invest off the hop in a good set of hats and ride.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by troutman

Thanks for the comments - I live in a duplex style home, so acoustic drums would be too loud. My 12 year old son wants to learn, and I used to play when I was in High School. Looks like these would work well enough for jamming at home (when the neighbors are away) and we probably would not use them at a live gig.

I've owned a few acoustic sets and have played around with rental electric kits and the one important thing to remember with the real cymbal suggestions is that it will likely render the entire reason for getting an electronic kit useless.

I had the same thoughts when I first got an electric kit about real cymbals being better, but while cymbals aren't as loud as the rest of an acoustic set they're still extremely loud, and you'd completely remove the "quiet" factor from your kit. I'd say if your idea is to have a quiet kit just accept that that's a full electronic kit and factor electronic cymbal quality into your buying decision.

I remember a buddy of mine bought electronic then had all real cymbals, then eventually switched out for a real snare saying "the feel of cymbals and a snare can't be replicated", and I eventually said "yeah man, might as well switch out the base and toms and you'll have everything you want in your electronic kit".

[jayswin]

For what's it worth, after a ton of shopping and discussion we came to the conclusion that the Roland TDKVS 11's were the best combination of price vs performance (note there's TDKVS and TDKS). The mesh heads make a huge difference.

Right now they're $2099, but you can rent them for like $70/mt to get a good feel for them first.

https://www.long-mcquade.com/17847/D...t_Drum_Kit.htm

This kit had me invigorated to play at a time when I couldn't play acoustic and I had never had that feeling with the cheaper (sub $1500) kits.

[jayswin]

Also, you won't see them listed on their site but Long and McQuade often has used electronic kits in store that can still be rented first to get a feel. When I got the TDKS 11's they actually had a nice used set of

TD-9K's for $1300.

[jayswin]

Apologies for being an expert in Roland and having nothing whatsoever to say about Yamaha, lol.

[MoneyGuy]

If you guys need a star flute or piccolo player I'm your man.

[troutman]

Yeah, I'd be looking at something like the Roland $2000 kit.

Psycnet - a 20 year veteran might be too advanced, unless you are willing to guide us. I assume there will be some Pearl Jam.

[Hack&Lube]

I'm part owner of a coffee shop in downtown with an open mic night...but I'm guessing it'd be easier to meet some someone's basement to start.

I haven't played live for 2 years now. Forgot all my songs.

[V]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Feel free to use this as an excuse to meet me and punch me in the face for being mean on the internet.

I wasn't going to commute 3 hours for the band, but I might consider commuting up for this!

[troutman]

We got the Roland kit:

[jayswin]

Excellent choice! What are you going to play it out of?

[jayswin]

That's an incredible wall, btw. Amazing.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

So whatever happened to this attempt at a band?

I'm available to jam, as I've been out of a fulltime band for ~6 months now.

Bass player with 20 years on-stage experience in a multitude of genres. Feel free to use this as an excuse to meet me and punch me in the face for being mean on the internet.

But can you be within 500ft of a school?

[troutman]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Excellent choice! What are you going to play it out of?

Probably something like this eventually:



Just playing through headphones now. Neighbors are just about to have a baby.

[edslunch]

Anyone interested in a Tragically Hip jam?