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View Poll Results: Cities flying pride flags during Olympics; do you support it?
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1. Do you support the Pride flag being flown at City Hall, during the Olympics?
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2. Do you not support the Pride flag being flown at City Hall, during the Olympics?
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47 |
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02-10-2014, 12:13 PM
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#101
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate
Really?
Violence against homosexuals is still alarming, and worse, GROWING:
http://www.wayves.ca/node/158
Incidents of bullying, harassment and taunting cause many to take their own life.
Almost half say that they have suffered some kind of discrimination due to their sexuality.
I don't think we can call homophobia dead. Far from it. |
Agreed.
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02-10-2014, 12:16 PM
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#102
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Originally Posted by rayne008
I wholeheartedly support the Canadian Flag (And provincial/city) being lowered to half mast..
As for the Calgary tower, I'm also all for it, although I believe its done through the private sector.
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How do you make the distinction between the two? Which you support, and which you don't feel is a proper use of resources when neither is something that falls under the realm of "running a city".
As for the tower, it seems you're correct, I must've misheard that somewhere.
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02-10-2014, 12:42 PM
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#103
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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No option for I don't care?
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02-10-2014, 12:44 PM
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#104
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by Fire
No option for I don't care?
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why don't you care?
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02-10-2014, 12:48 PM
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#105
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Originally Posted by Flabbibulin
Better than quoting scripture or saying that's just the way were raised... or saying they don't support and give no explanation.
I am finding that many people once opposed to gay rights have transitioned into the "I don't care" crowd. This is progressive imo. The reality is there are a lot of generational attitudes to work through in our society and I think it is positive that those once heavily against gay rights have softened their stance and now simply have a "no comment" outlook. You can't expect everything overnight.
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More likely (IMO), those people have just softened their rhetoric, not their actual stance.
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02-10-2014, 12:50 PM
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#106
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Originally Posted by Fire
No option for I don't care?
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The "I don't care" option would be to not read the thread or not vote or whatever.
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"Life of Russian hockey veterans is very hard," said Soviet hockey star Sergei Makarov. "Most of them don't have enough to eat these days. These old players are Russian legends."
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02-10-2014, 02:56 PM
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#107
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Makarov
The "I don't care" option would be to not read the thread or not vote or whatever.
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Whatever.
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02-10-2014, 04:36 PM
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#108
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aka Spike
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The Darkest Corners of My Mind
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Originally Posted by NuclearPizzaMan
Seems like an easy way to support something without actually putting any effort or meaning into it, so sure? why not I guess.
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This is why I don't care either way. If the city really wanted to show support to the LGBT community, they would be holding events, information sessions or by taking funds that were to be spent in Russia and spending them in more LGBT friendly countries.
It's a flag...big deal.
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02-10-2014, 05:18 PM
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#109
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by strombad
How do you make the distinction between the two? Which you support, and which you don't feel is a proper use of resources when neither is something that falls under the realm of "running a city".
As for the tower, it seems you're correct, I must've misheard that somewhere.
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My initial thoughts is that the Canadian Flag stands for all Canadians, is the symbol of our country and all of the rights and freedoms associated with it.
Having our flag fly at government buildings, airports, and even being worn by athletes at the Olympics is the greatest symbol we can show in support of equality and basic human rights.
The Canadian flag is as encompassing as we can get... If the policies of the city adjust to suit the rainbow flag, then it opens itself up to other causes that are just as worthy, such as women's rights in the middle east or workers rights in China.
As stated, there are many admirable causes, but I don't want my city government making political statements.
That being said I fully back using city resources to assist such events as the Santa Clause, Pride, Festival of Chariots and Stampede Parades. I just feel municipal governments should stick to running the city.
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02-10-2014, 05:21 PM
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#110
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Join Date: May 2004
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Originally Posted by rayne008
I don't want my city government making political statements.
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Lol
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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02-10-2014, 05:22 PM
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#111
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Interesting. I think we disagree on what constitutes "running a city" as well as what constitutes a "political statement", but to each their own.
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02-10-2014, 05:34 PM
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#112
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Yeah you should totally only make political statements if
a) you belong to a party
b) you are not non-partisan
c) you are toeing the party line
I mean #### just gets messy and hard to keep track of when all these non-affiliated "politicians" start having opinions outside the accepted paradigm.
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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02-10-2014, 05:48 PM
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#113
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Byrns
Except the Germans flat out deny it has anything to do with the LGBT rights.
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German Olympic official Michael Vesper also denied there was any political message in the outfit design, saying "this is just a fashionable jacket."
If he was really cool he would have said this was a fabulous jacket.
That would have been awesome.
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02-10-2014, 06:16 PM
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#114
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Originally Posted by ranchlandsselling
Remember guys, even though he gave two options there's only one right one, or you're the bad guy in the thread.
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Well, yeah. Just because two options are given doesn't make them equally valid.
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02-10-2014, 06:20 PM
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#115
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: On your last nerve...:D
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Originally Posted by rayne008
.... I don't want my city government making political statements.
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Ummm... 
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02-10-2014, 06:34 PM
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#116
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This shouldn't even be seen as a political issue.
I'd rather they not have raised it at all just so the idiots wouldn't have been prompted to make their unjustifiable and uncalled for hatred heard but I guess it's too late for that. I don't think the flag will do anything to sway Russian opinions but it is a nice gesture to the Canadian LGBT community to re-affirm their acceptance in our society.
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02-10-2014, 06:37 PM
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#117
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by rayne008
As stated, there are many admirable causes, but I don't want my city government making political statements.
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Haha, unintentional post of the year candidate?
"Keep politics out of our damn civil politics!!".
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02-10-2014, 06:58 PM
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#118
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: CALGARY!
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Don't agree with the flag. It starts setting a precedent. Why not a flag of a kid to show support towards ending child slavery? Why not a flag with the silhouette of a woman on it to support women's rights across the world? Why not a flag of a dolphin to support eliminating illegal poaching? How about a flag with a wheelchair to show support for people with disabilities? Maybe a green flag with a dollar symbol and a circle of hands around it as a symbol to end world poverty? I Don't like when one agenda is pushed in favor of others. Let me clarify that I am not a homophobe before everyone jumps on me. I am all in favor for equal rights and tolorence, I just don't care for the flying of the flag at a government institution (or any flag other than Canada/Alberta/Calgary flags).
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02-10-2014, 07:07 PM
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#119
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by The Familia
Don't agree with the flag. It starts setting a precedent. Why not a flag of a kid to show support towards ending child slavery? Why not a flag with the silhouette of a woman on it to support women's rights across the world? Why not a flag of a dolphin to support eliminating illegal poaching? How about a flag with a wheelchair to show support for people with disabilities? Maybe a green flag with a dollar symbol and a circle of hands around it as a symbol to end world poverty? I Don't like when one agenda is pushed in favor of others. Let me clarify that I am not a homophobe before everyone jumps on me. I am all in favor for equal rights and tolorence, I just don't care for the flying of the flag at a government institution (or any flag other than Canada/Alberta/Calgary flags).
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Okay, so you agree that we need to support everything or nothing then?
Also, will that opinion remain consistent with every issue that comes up on CP, for you? Or more so this one than others?
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02-10-2014, 07:09 PM
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#120
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by The Familia
Don't agree with the flag. It starts setting a precedent. Why not a flag of a kid to show support towards ending child slavery? Why not a flag with the silhouette of a woman on it to support women's rights across the world? Why not a flag of a dolphin to support eliminating illegal poaching? How about a flag with a wheelchair to show support for people with disabilities? Maybe a green flag with a dollar symbol and a circle of hands around it as a symbol to end world poverty? I Don't like when one agenda is pushed in favor of others. Let me clarify that I am not a homophobe before everyone jumps on me. I am all in favor for equal rights and tolorence, I just don't care for the flying of the flag at a government institution (or any flag other than Canada/Alberta/Calgary flags).
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Sure.....how about it? Except for the dolphin one...they aren't people. And if a prominent event takes place in a country that forbids disabled people from being disabled in public...we can erect that flag.
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