02-06-2014, 12:17 PM
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#101
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A part of me want Burke to ride in and trade Cammalleri to LA after McTavish has put in all this work.
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02-06-2014, 12:19 PM
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#102
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Scoring Winger
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One perk about having such a bad team in such a bad city that none of your players will actually hold you to your NTC/NMC. If I were Edmonton I'd just hand them out to everyone.
Last edited by KootenayFlamesFan; 02-06-2014 at 01:30 PM.
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02-06-2014, 12:23 PM
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#103
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Scoring Winger
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If all Edmonton can get for Gagner is Clifford the big red dog and a pick then I would suggest they keep him....
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02-06-2014, 12:28 PM
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#104
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2011
Location: in the belly of the beast.
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So Gagner is doing cart wheels at the thought of getting out of edmonton, poor Clifford, I can't imagine what he's thinking from strong contender, sunny LA to the hole that is edmonton.
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02-06-2014, 12:34 PM
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#105
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I've only seen 4 or 5 oilers games but I just don't see Gagner as a "Sutter" guy. He's not big, doesn't play big, isn't mean or aggressive, doesn't really put in the effort, doesn't play defense. He's gonna have a rude awakening at the first practice I think.
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02-06-2014, 12:37 PM
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#106
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Not much of an update.
Nick Kypreos@RealKyper2 mins
#TradeTracker As of now Gagner still penciled in vs #Rangers. #Oilers #Kings continue talks regarding potential trade involving multi pieces
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02-06-2014, 12:37 PM
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#107
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Edmonton trading Gagner to LA? Is he injured?
Why would LA want Gagner at all? He costs $4.8M which is obscene for what he brings to the table, the Oil would have to eat half his salary just to get rid of him.
And why would Gagner want to go to LA? Is he really that enthused about being a 4th line centre? 3rd line at best?
Its common knowledge that if the Oil want to get better they have to do it via trade but someone forgot to tell MacT that hes got to trade a good player, and that means Eberle or maybe Hall.
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02-06-2014, 12:37 PM
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#108
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Lifetime Suspension
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Personally, I think Gagner has the requisite talent to really excel somewhere else. I don't feel he'll ever be great in a shoddy system like Oilcountry, but playing under Sutter in LA might be just what he needs.
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02-06-2014, 12:40 PM
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#109
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by MissTeeks
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If Gagner is in the lineup against the Rangers expect him to avoid contact at all costs (even more so than usual). One day from parole, keep your head down and your mouth shut!
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02-06-2014, 12:41 PM
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#110
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Locke
And why would Gagner want to go to LA? Is he really that enthused about being a 4th line centre? 3rd line at best?
Its common knowledge that if the Oil want to get better they have to do it via trade but someone forgot to tell MacT that hes got to trade a good player, and that means Eberle or maybe Hall.
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As for the bolded...get a grip man.
The holdup is Lombardi wiping the pool of tears out of his office as Big Red Clifford sobs uncontrollably for not having an NMC.
MacTavish can't trade Eberle or Hall because the impact players they'd want back in return invoked their NTC yesterday.
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02-06-2014, 12:42 PM
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#111
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Lifetime Suspension
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Surprised there are so many Gagne haters. While he is a small player, he has proven to be able to put up points at the NHL level. Sutter would teach him defence so LA will make him a much better player.
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02-06-2014, 12:44 PM
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#112
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by browna
As for the bolded...get a grip man.
The holdup is Lombardi wiping the pool of tears out of his office as Big Red Clifford sobs uncontrollably for not having an NMC.
MacTavish can't trade Eberle or Hall because the impact players they'd want back in return invoked their NTC yesterday.
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Okay, fair enough. Other than the obvious reason of getting the hell out of Dodge and laughing that the idiot KLowe already pays him $4.8M for the next few years.
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02-06-2014, 12:47 PM
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#113
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Clifford must be just sick to his stomach at the thought of going from a Cup Contender and great scenery to the idea of going to Emondump.
Must be thinking wtf did I do to deserve this unholy punishment.
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02-06-2014, 12:48 PM
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#114
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First Line Centre
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Gagner is fine...but just not what Edmonton needs. His price is a bit high BUT hes still young and could round out as well.
If the Flames could trade a somewhat plugger for a guy like Gagner I would be all for it.
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02-06-2014, 12:49 PM
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#115
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Stay Golden
Clifford must be just sick to his stomach at the thought of going from a Cup Contender and great scenery to the idea of going to Emondump.
Must be thinking wtf did I do to deserve this unholy punishment.
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I can only imagine that he slept with Lombardi's wife or something. Even then this seems extreme.... 
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02-06-2014, 12:50 PM
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#116
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by nik-
So how does that actually work? Does Edmonton actually pay that portion of the salary or do they just lose that portion of the cap? I assume they actually pay it, but I'm not 100%.
It would be funny getting your LA paycheck and also getting your Edmonton paycheck ... for over a million dollars.
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If a team retains salary, it is a single fixed percentage for the remaining term of the contract, of both the real dollars paid to the player and the cap hit.
The player will receive a single pay cheque from his current team, and the team is reimbursed by the other team.
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02-06-2014, 12:58 PM
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#117
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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If the Oilers retain salary, for Calgary's sake, we want to see Edmonton win this trade (AKA get a good prospect or high draft pick). We need the market value of salary retention to be set high, so when we start trading guys like Cammalleri we can use this trade as a benchmark for what we want back for keeping salary.
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02-06-2014, 01:01 PM
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#118
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by J epworth kendal
If the Oilers retain salary, for Calgary's sake, we want to see Edmonton win this trade (AKA get a good prospect or high draft pick). We need the market value of salary retention to be set high, so when we start trading guys like Cammalleri we can use this trade as a benchmark for what we want back for keeping salary.
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Not really. MacT could just be a terrible negotiator like Feaster? The one thing I am not worried about with Burke is the fact he seems to get value for his players in trades
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02-06-2014, 01:03 PM
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#119
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
Not really. MacT could just be a terrible negotiator like Feaster? The one thing I am not worried about with Burke is the fact he seems to get value for his players in trades
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Doesn't really matter who the negotiator is, Burke has said multiple times already that there is no market value yet for salary retention, so whoever is the first, it'll be big in setting how much keeping cap space is worth.
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02-06-2014, 01:12 PM
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#120
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by J epworth kendal
Doesn't really matter who the negotiator is, Burke has said multiple times already that there is no market value yet for salary retention, so whoever is the first, it'll be big in setting how much keeping cap space is worth.
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I guess if we are looking at trading Wideman that makes sense but tough to gauge the market on a player with 2 years left vs pending UFA's as it pertains to salary retention. Perhaps you were referring to the Hudler and Wideman types?
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