Conversatives to repeal Daylight Savings Time in Alberta

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by ranchlandsselling

You mean the people who can't handle a 60 minute adjustment twice a year when they probably go out randomly on random weekends and have varying times that they go to bed and wake up not to mention vacations with time zone changes and other travel... If you can't handle a one our time change twice a year I'd suggest you're not equipped to leave the province EVER or go out past 9:00pm at night.

I always find it kind of funny how people freak out over the 1 hour change. Oh no, what are we going to do?! I can't drive, I can't work, it's such a big adjustment! It's one freaking hour. I'd hate to see how you function normally if you travel anywhere. Hell, those business trip to Toronto or Vancouver must be horrendous for you. You deserve a cookie for being able to power through that like a real trooper.

[GP_Matt]

The real problem here is that society decided that the high point for the sun should happen at noon. Why are we still basing our clocks on such an outmoded method of determining the time. Sure it used to make sense that mid day was the half way point in Helios' trip hauling the sun across the sky but does it still make sense to structure our lives around the idea.
I say we move to a metric world clock. One world, one time Metric Standard Time.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by FireFly

This is my favorite. The sunlight isn't usable if it's too early in the day? Or too late in the day?

I guess that's confusing for me. I go to work in the dark and get home in the dark in winter. I would prefer the hour in the evening, not the morning. Either way, we don't LOSE an hour anywhere. It's not like the sun just goes out for an extra hour. It's still a usable hour of sunlight in the morning or in the evening.

It's not usable for a lot of people.

If I play hockey until 11:30pm, waking up at 6 to go to work for 7 so that I can get a bit of sunlight by leaving work at 4 isn't reasonable.

If we stay on DST and it stays light until 6pm, then I can still live my life as normal and work 8-5 and get some sun after work.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by GP_Matt

The real problem here is that society decided that the high point for the sun should happen at noon. Why are we still basing our clocks on such an outmoded method of determining the time. Sure it used to make sense that mid day was the half way point in Helios' trip hauling the sun across the sky but does it still make sense to structure our lives around the idea.
I say we move to a metric world clock. One world, one time Metric Standard Time.

And Star Dates.

[troutman]

Being in Quito was interesting. At the equator, the sunrise and sunset is the same every day.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by FireFly

And technically, we would ALWAYS be on MST. We would not observe DST, but always be on MST.

You were the one who brought up that we would be on BC or Saskatchewan time.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by GP_Matt

The real problem here is that society decided that the high point for the sun should happen at noon. Why are we still basing our clocks on such an outmoded method of determining the time. Sure it used to make sense that mid day was the half way point in Helios' trip hauling the sun across the sky but does it still make sense to structure our lives around the idea.
I say we move to a metric world clock. One world, one time Metric Standard Time.

I'm fine with your suggestion as long as the rest of North America changes in accordance. The problem for me lies in the fact that for half a year, we're out of synch with the rest of the continent (and yes, I know Saskatschewan doesn't change, but it's not like they matter much tbh). It's just confusion all around. I honestly don't care if we get an hour in the evening or in the morning. At the end of the day, we still get a fixed amount of sunlight, so who cares when it happens.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

It's not usable for a lot of people.

If I play hockey until 11:30pm, waking up at 6 to go to work for 7 so that I can get a bit of sunlight by leaving work at 4 isn't reasonable.

If we stay on DST and it stays light until 6pm, then I can still live my life as normal and work 8-5 and get some sun after work.

DST is what we do in the summer though. There is ample sunlight in the morning and evening regardless. We are actually on DST more than we are on MST.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by ken0042

You were the one who brought up that we would be on BC or Saskatchewan time.

Indeed.

[V]

Originally Posted by ranchlandsselling

You mean the people who can't handle a 60 minute adjustment twice a year when they probably go out randomly on random weekends and have varying times that they go to bed and wake up not to mention vacations with time zone changes and other travel... If you can't handle a one our time change twice a year I'd suggest you're not equipped to leave the province EVER or go out past 9:00pm at night.

Well, I meant more like that ^^^.

There just isn't a topic that can't be blown out of proportion. It's fascinating.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by FireFly

DST is what we do in the summer though. There is ample sunlight in the morning and evening regardless. We are actually on DST more than we are on MST.

Right, which is why everyone in here that wants it changed wants to go to stay on DST permanently.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

Right, which is why everyone in here that wants it changed wants to go to stay on DST permanently.

Alternately we could just switch to CST.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Alternately we could just switch to CST.

And then not use daylight savings time...

I don't think anyone cares what you call it.

[Ace]

CST, or permanent DST, or Super Awesome Time, or whatever you want to call it. Keep it lighter in the evenings , than in the mornings. All my american friends who visit here love the long summer days, we truly have something great going here to enjoy the great outdoors in the summer, and the only downside is it gets dark at 4:30 in December. Make it dark at 5:30 in December and we just literally became the best day light cycle on earth...seriously.

Why on earth would anyone want us to be dark earlier in either season, just say no to permanent MST.

[You Need a Thneed]

Again, I slightly prefer the current system over going to matching Sask time all the time. Either of those options is MUCH better than simply repealing DST.

The current system allows us to do what most of the rest of North America is doing, which avoids confusion. Also, I think I prefer the sun up from 8:30am to 4:30 pm in Dec, rather than 9:30am to 5:30 pm, but obviously both aren't that great.

However, having the sun up from 5:15am to 10pm in June is better than 4:15 am to 9 pm - which is what it would be without DST.

[ken0042]

The one subject that has come up is for kids to switch their internal clocks. I am guessing a lot of those are people with smaller kids, who have trouble going to bed an hour earlier.

As much as I understand that- I would prefer that my kid goes to school with some sort of daylight; as opposed to total darkness. The 6-8 years of kids not wanting to go to bed early is minor compared to children's safety.

I know that comes across as "won't somebody PLEASE think of the children"; however I haven't seen any arguements that provide more weight the other way.

[V]

I just hate getting up at 5am with the kids for a week. One of the problems with being routine nazis with the kids is that when the clocks change it takes a while for them to adjust.

It's not that big a deal, it's just a week of inconvenience twice a year, but I'd be more than happy if we got rid of it.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Brannigans Law

DST is stupid.

Well said.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by ken0042

The one subject that has come up is for kids to switch their internal clocks. I am guessing a lot of those are people with smaller kids, who have trouble going to bed an hour earlier.

As much as I understand that- I would prefer that my kid goes to school with some sort of daylight; as opposed to total darkness. The 6-8 years of kids not wanting to go to bed early is minor compared to children's safety.

I know that comes across as "won't somebody PLEASE think of the children"; however I haven't seen any arguements that provide more weight the other way.

I don't have kids but I agree with you. The safety concerns of young children going to school outweigh any inconvience in the counter argument that I've heard.

That said, perhaps we should start school later? That would solve the safety concern but I haven't given any thought to the ripple effect.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

I don't have kids but I agree with you. The safety concerns of young children going to school outweigh any inconvience in the counter argument that I've heard.

That said, perhaps we should start school later? That would solve the safety concern but I haven't given any thought to the ripple effect.

Also as I said in another post, people who work outside won't have light until 9:30. A dangerous situation just to satisfy some office workers whim.