GAME 17 : Riders at CALGARY

[Minnie]

More from whineypants:

We all know how the situation played out. We the better team anyway. When we go back and watch the tape, y'all see why. (reporter - "Why?") Because we the better team. (reporter - 'But you lost!") Oh yeah, but we gonna laugh about this one. I'm not trying to get fined. But I understand why, and I'mma laugh about this one. (reporter - "...garbled mumble....the West Final here, is that what you mean?") It don't matter. We come in here, and we gonna beat them. Period. We the better team. Calgary suck!!

It gets funnier if you rewind it in slow motion and watch his face. Even more hilarious.

[OzSome]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

He was like "we da best team in da league. Doesn't matter we lost. We da best."
"But you lost!"
"We know deep down we da best. I don't wanna get fined yo. We come back and beat there ass in the Western Final!"

hahahaha. well not exact but you get the idea. They broadcasted it on 960 after the first intermission and i was howling in the car.

I hated even more now. I am rooting for the Lions in the Semi-Final not because I am scared of Saskatchewan... it's just the team is so cocky... Coach Chamblin, Kory Sheets, Dwight Anderson, Geroy Simon stupid Superman pose, and the annoying fans.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Dwight Anderson is a big dummy. I'm getting pretty tired of Sheets constant need to be yapping as well.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by OzSome

I am sorry I have to disagree with you. Glenn had a bad game but he does to find a way to win during the season. He's not perfect but I still think Stamps should stick with Glenn. Any QB even a great one in the NFL or CFL can have at least one bad game. One thing I noticed when Tate is playing, Cornish is the forgotten man all the time. It happens in the first two games and even showed when Tate came in the game. He likes to throw the ball all the time. I am more comfortable with Tate coming off the bench. We don't want our best player to just help block.

As much as I appreciate Glenn's effort over the last couple years, you could put a pylon at QB on this team and be successful. Unfortunately, because Tate is a bandaid we haven't seen a big sample size from him, but it doesn't take much to tell he is by far a faster and better decision maker than Glenn.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Redrum

As much as I appreciate Glenn's effort over the last couple years, you could put a pylon at QB on this team and be successful. Unfortunately, because Tate is a bandaid we haven't seen a big sample size from him, but it doesn't take much to tell he is by far a faster and better decision maker than Glenn.

Couldnt disagree more.

If Glenn doesnt play the way he did for the vast vast majority of the year, this team is fighting to host the division semi-final at best.

BLM wasnt/isnt ready for every game action, Tate wasnt either because of injury...and a bit of a me-first attitude at times.

All I need to know is what i hear from the players themselves, and Glenn is their guy as much as anyone on this team.

No doubt in my mind that KG gets the start in the West final, and so he should. This is his team. If he stumbles as he did yesterday, then you have options which is great either way.

KG desreves nothing but praise and bouquets from Stampeder fans...but is still getting crapped on by many....i really dont understand it.

[Redrum]

I dunno, I can't see it. The other 2 QBs are obviously more talented, I don't think that's even debatable, but one is always injured and one is a kid not being thrown into the fire. Glenn just recently got his first 300 yard game of the year with likely the best group of receivers in the league. Since last year I keep hearing "he manages the game well". Which is a nice way of saying he's just an okay QB. Like I said, I don't hate him, I just don't think it's a coincidence that he was being replaced by Quinton Porter every night on a crappy team, then when he gets traded to the best team in the league, he looks good.

[killer_carlson]

I run with TAte in the playoffs. glenn goes when Tate gets injured, or if Tate falters.

( and yes, the placement of When and If were intentional)

[M*A*S*H 4077]

News Talk 770 Stamps ‏@Newstalkstamps 5m
"Kevn Glenn is my starter until I decide otherwise" Smart move by Huf to defuse any QB debate before it starts.

[jammies]

Biggest game of the year and Glenn loses the ball multiple times. Not surprised he got yanked, expect to see he and Tate split the game next week (with maybe Mitchell getting some time too) and little patience in the West final if he doesn't get things going.

That said, he has played well enough the rest of the year to start, but while he may inspire his teammates, pleasing Hufnagel is how you stay #1. Letting an overmatched Roughrider team lead a game where you should have been up by a touchdown or two at the half is not how you make the coach happy.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by M*A*S*H 4077

News Talk 770 Stamps ‏@Newstalkstamps 5m
"Kevn Glenn is my starter until I decide otherwise" Smart move by Huf to defuse any QB debate before it starts.

At the same time, the statement says exactly nothing. Every starting quarterback on every team in every league is the starter until their coach decides otherwise.

[OzSome]

Originally Posted by Redrum

I dunno, I can't see it. The other 2 QBs are obviously more talented, I don't think that's even debatable, but one is always injured and one is a kid not being thrown into the fire. Glenn just recently got his first 300 yard game of the year with likely the best group of receivers in the league. Since last year I keep hearing "he manages the game well". Which is a nice way of saying he's just an okay QB. Like I said, I don't hate him, I just don't think it's a coincidence that he was being replaced by Quinton Porter every night on a crappy team, then when he gets traded to the best team in the league, he looks good.

I bet you wouldn't say this if the Stamps lost last night with Drew Tate coming in. What does Glenn has to do to get respect around here? I was not a Kevin Glenn at the start but I learned to like him and I respect the guy for what's he's done. I don't believe for a minute that any of Winnipeg QB can play for this team and win the way Kevin Glenn did the last two seasons.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by OzSome

I bet you wouldn't say this if the Stamps lost last night with Drew Tate coming in. What does Glenn has to do to get respect around here? I was not a Kevin Glenn at the start but I learned to like him and I respect the guy for what's he's done. I don't believe for a minute that any of Winnipeg QB can play for this team and win the way Kevin Glenn did the last two seasons.

I think people don't respect Glenn because when he wins, it's usually based on consistant execution of reliable plays to key playmakers on offence. In other words what the casual observer notices in a typical Stamps win with Glenn at the helm is big Cornish runs, big YAC yards for recievers like Mo Price et al. Glenn's game isn't flashy, he doesn't typically evade defenders when they get through the O-line, nor does he run often for a broken play first down either. He just shows up and consistantly does what he needs to do to win the game. Some may call that 'game managing' in a desperaging way, but it should be reconized that he puts up points and moves the ball for the offense. Both things that go above and beyond what a fill-in 'game manager' does.

[PeteLFan]

Drew Tate saw the field better and quicker with his decisions. Kevin Glenn was really off from the get go and you could tell that from the start.

The turnovers were not because of the riders, but lack of concentration in his part.

When he's labeled a good game manager, I think that's perfect. This team goes as far as Jon Cornish can take them. Glenn does a good job getting the ball to play makers to make plays and not turn it over.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by OzSome

I bet you wouldn't say this if the Stamps lost last night with Drew Tate coming in. What does Glenn has to do to get respect around here? I was not a Kevin Glenn at the start but I learned to like him and I respect the guy for what's he's done. I don't believe for a minute that any of Winnipeg QB can play for this team and win the way Kevin Glenn did the last two seasons.

But he didn't, that's kind of the point, he infused the offense with better and faster decision making and more creativity. The exact opposite situation happened in the first Riders game when Tate was pulled because of injury and Glenn was ineffective in replacing him. As I've said a few times, I'm not trying to down Glenn, I'm happy we have him or the Stamps would be in some trouble the last couple years but Tate is clearly the more talented QB and I just don't get people praising Glenn like a god when he has all the tools a QB could ever dream of to work with: The best OLine, best receivers, best RB, most possesion time, and he's still just okay.

[octothorp]

Tate also forced a couple passes into traffic that were nearly intercepted, one of which would have likely been a pick-6 if the defender had held onto it. The fact that he dropped it doesn't make Tate's decision any better. I'm far from a Glenn supporter, but both guys have their blemishes.
I agree that the offence looks more creative and dynamic with Tate in there. There's more misdirection, the field is stretched deeper. He rans the hurry-up better. I'm okay with the 'let Glenn start, keep him on a short leash' strategy, not because he's earned the starter's role, but because it's a strategy that gives you a great shot at winning.

[CaptainCrunch]

I do agree with what Huff said about 30 minutes of game time not undoing a season of good work by Glenn. He's earned the starting spot by that basis alone.

The game plan was also adjusted for Drew Tate in the second half which threw off the Riders pass rush due to his ability to move the pocket.

I would expect all three QB's to see the ball this weekend anyways as well as a lot of MW at tailback.