[News] 2013-14 Calgary Flames Opening Day Roster

[dino7c]

We need some higher priced vets


CAP FLOOR! CAP FLOOR! CAP FLOOR!

[Kaine]

Add me to the group that dislikes Horak being sent down. I understand it with the waiver situation but that doesn't mean I have to like it nor does it mean the kid deserves it. Odds are he is the first call up, hopefully this is sooner rather than later.

[red sky]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

Also, who called Monahan making the team over some more established or older players like Horak and Knight? He earned a spot because he had an exceptional camp and has the ability to learn quickly. This is why his development was accelerated over some others and why he's on the team (albeit it is likely only for 9 games).

Exceptional camp? He held his own and perhaps it was a good camp for an 18 year old but he never really stood out or dominated.

I am looking forward to seeing how he does and now that the games are all on TV I will get a better look at him. He isn't flashy, but he does seem to make smart plays.

[SuperMatt18]

Not really related to the Flames but there are 13 teams within a Million dollars of the cap on opening night, with 7 teams technically over the cap but benefiting from LTIR.

Not a lot of flexibility for a lot of these teams this season. May be an issue if injuries start to pop up.

http://capgeek.com/

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by devo22

I'd happily take Liles and use a compliance buyout on him if the Leafs send Gardiner with him, just saying.

I'd consider that too. For the amount of $$ remaining on Liles contract I would probably hope for Gardiner+ in return for the buyout (but would be happy with just Gardiner).

As Liles is currently buried and the Leafs have a grand total of $165K in cap space they are still in a pretty tight place.

There are not a lot of teams that would actively want Liles and his contract and even less that have room for him. The Flames and Avs are really it. Panthers might be an option but I doubt they want to spend more than they are right now. Senators and Islanders are definitely internal cap teams. The Sabres and the Oilers have the space but it looks like their rosters are set and it is unlikely that either would want to deal with Liles beyond this season.

So Avs vs Flames. If the Avs are not interested then that leaves us open to gauge the Leafs for all that we can.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Not really related to the Flames but there are 13 teams within a Million dollars of the cap on opening night, with 7 teams technically over the cap but benefiting from LTIR.

Not a lot of flexibility for a lot of these teams this season. May be an issue if injuries start to pop up.

http://capgeek.com/

How the heck do the Islanders have more cap space than we do and a better team to show for it?

http://capgeek.com/islanders

They still need some of their prospects to join the team soon (De Haan, Strome, Kabanov) but that is a team headed in the right direction with a ton of money to burn. Goaltending needs to be sorted out long term after Nabokov, so there is a hole to fill. Still, John Tavares at 5.5 million is an absolute steal.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you do a rebuild.

[EYE_Overstand]

Originally Posted by cali flames fan

how the heck do the islanders have more cap space than we do and a better team to show for it?

http://capgeek.com/islanders

they still need some of their prospects to join the team soon (de haan, strome, kabanov) but that is a team headed in the right direction with a ton of money to burn. Goaltending needs to be sorted out long term after nabokov, so there is a hole to fill. Still, john tavares at 5.5 million is an absolute steal.

that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you do a - 10 year - rebuild.

fyp

[MissTeeks]

Pat Steinberg‏@Fan960Steinberg3m

So Bob Hartley says Mike Cammalleri will be on the opening road trip, but no word if he plays. Didn't skate this morning. #Flames

[bubbsy]

any hints on what the lines are shaping up to be from today's practice?

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

How the heck do the Islanders have more cap space than we do and a better team to show for it?

http://capgeek.com/islanders

They still need some of their prospects to join the team soon (De Haan, Strome, Kabanov) but that is a team headed in the right direction with a ton of money to burn. Goaltending needs to be sorted out long term after Nabokov, so there is a hole to fill. Still, John Tavares at 5.5 million is an absolute steal.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you do a rebuild.

There is nothing good about the Islanders rebuild. They might be in a reasonable place now after being terrible forever but they are still only a bubble playoff team, not a contender for the cup.

They have had so many terrible moves over the last 15 years that if a good GM had been running things they likely would have had a superstar team throughout most of the last 10 years.

Just skimming through their transactions they could have had:
Luongo & Jokinen instead of Kvasha & Parrish
Heatley / Gaborik first overall in the 2000 draft instead of DiPietro
Chara, Spezza and Muckalt instead of Yashin (whom they ended up buying out and are still paying for)

Snow's track record is barely better. I'd say that the only reason the Islanders are in as good of a spot as they are in now is mainly because they have been so bad for such a long time and have had so many draft picks that it is almost inevitable that they would come out with a pile of good players that they couldn't screw up. They are still trying though, just look at the Nino Niederreiter situation.

Yeah... I want nothing to do with that type of rebuild.

[username]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

How the heck do the Islanders have more cap space than we do and a better team to show for it?

http://capgeek.com/islanders

They still need some of their prospects to join the team soon (De Haan, Strome, Kabanov) but that is a team headed in the right direction with a ton of money to burn. Goaltending needs to be sorted out long term after Nabokov, so there is a hole to fill. Still, John Tavares at 5.5 million is an absolute steal.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you do a rebuild.

It's actually amazing when you think that the Islanders have signed two of the worst contracts in NHL history (Yashin and Diepetro) and possibly the best contract with Tavares.

They were very lucky to be able to buyout those 2 bad contracts because without the buyouts they would be in big trouble.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

How the heck do the Islanders have more cap space than we do and a better team to show for it?

http://capgeek.com/islanders

They still need some of their prospects to join the team soon (De Haan, Strome, Kabanov) but that is a team headed in the right direction with a ton of money to burn. Goaltending needs to be sorted out long term after Nabokov, so there is a hole to fill. Still, John Tavares at 5.5 million is an absolute steal.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you do a rebuild.

Since Snow took over as GM he has not been as bad as most think he would be. He has made some good trades and great waiver wire pick ups. You also have to realise that he works for the "Willy Wonka" of NHL owners. Wang is a guy who does not like to spend a penny over cap floor. Hell one year Snow had no choice but to put Nino on the roster when he was nowhere ready just because Wang would not pony up to get the team to the cap floor.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

How the heck do the Islanders have more cap space than we do and a better team to show for it?

http://capgeek.com/islanders

They still need some of their prospects to join the team soon (De Haan, Strome, Kabanov) but that is a team headed in the right direction with a ton of money to burn. Goaltending needs to be sorted out long term after Nabokov, so there is a hole to fill. Still, John Tavares at 5.5 million is an absolute steal.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you do a rebuild.

It is quite possible that you are the only human being ever to utter those words in connection with the NYIs

[strombad]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

How the heck do the Islanders have more cap space than we do and a better team to show for it?

http://capgeek.com/islanders

They still need some of their prospects to join the team soon (De Haan, Strome, Kabanov) but that is a team headed in the right direction with a ton of money to burn. Goaltending needs to be sorted out long term after Nabokov, so there is a hole to fill. Still, John Tavares at 5.5 million is an absolute steal.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you do a rebuild.

Normally I think your posts are pretty spot on, so I can only assume you hit the bottle a little early today.

That must be the key, a 15 year rebuild.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

How the heck do the Islanders have more cap space than we do and a better team to show for it?

http://capgeek.com/islanders

They still need some of their prospects to join the team soon (De Haan, Strome, Kabanov) but that is a team headed in the right direction with a ton of money to burn. Goaltending needs to be sorted out long term after Nabokov, so there is a hole to fill. Still, John Tavares at 5.5 million is an absolute steal.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you do a rebuild.

lol it only took 15 years

[SuperMatt18]

Really it was a 5 year re-build.

From 2001-2007 the Islanders had made the playoffs 4 out of 5 seasons. Not a great success but they were not rebuilding and floundered in mediocrity during those seasons.

They tried to re-tool in 2007-2008 after losing some key free agents and it didn't pan out, but don't think they had really committed to a re-build yet.

In 2008-2009 they then decided to fully commit to a re-build, moved some key veterans away at that trade deadline, and tanked to win the John Tavares sweepstakes.

Since then they worked on building around Tavares and have build a nice young stable of players through the draft and some shrewd pick-ups and made the playoffs last year.

Sadly since 2001 the Flames and Islanders have made the playoffs the same amount of times, 5.

[djsFlames]

When did we inherit the New York Islanders?

[Cali Panthers Fan]

I know they've been bad to mediocre for an eternity, but the new regime had a lot of jettisoning of terrible deals without the luxury of cap expenditure to work with. The current group started with Tavares and they built around him. Granted there are still some big pieces missing long term, and maybe it could have happened sooner, but they have a good young core right now to work with and it's also been done on the cheap.

They are now poised to be a good team for years to come if they acquire a good young goaltender and 1-2 more forwards and maybe one more defenseman.

If they also move to Brooklyn the income issues they have will likely go away and they will be able to afford some bigger name free agents to fill in the blanks.

I'm just saying they did a good job of assembling a young talented core without breaking the bank and giving them the opportunity to get to the next level quickly. It's something I hope the Flames can replicate, but maybe much more quickly.

[Yanda]

Originally Posted by Table 5

If we have the same amount of older guys on this team at this stage next year though, it would be a little disappointing....Im hoping for the second stage of the Stalinesque purging at the trade deadline.

^^ This, just in time to get Mcdavid, Timing is essential

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

any hints on what the lines are shaping up to be from today's practice?

anyone?