05-22-2013, 10:23 PM
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#101
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Originally Posted by scottish_flame
But they clearly are ?
You really can't deny that can you ?
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Many people would argue the United States is. It really depends what you believe is right and wrong.
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05-22-2013, 10:24 PM
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#102
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: (780)
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
Amazing you've been here this long and you can't differentiate between being an apologist and people against bigotry and ignorance. No one is defending the attack.
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We should just learn to accept these attacks, not defend them... But accept them. Right?
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05-22-2013, 10:26 PM
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#103
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kelowna
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Originally Posted by Bagor
Not an insult ... more of a term of endearment .... and a fact. You're a plastic paddy pretending to be an expert on a conflict you know nothing about. You wanna get all upset for being called on it? Fine.
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Last time replying to you, I'm a citizen of Ireland. I don't pretend to be an expert or know about the entire history of Ireland however I have more of a leg to stand on so to speak when it comes to discussing it than you.
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05-22-2013, 10:28 PM
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#104
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Behind Enemy Lines
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Originally Posted by Deelow
We should just learn to accept these attacks, not defend them... But accept them. Right?
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No. We should blame the cause, not blame the religious offiliations of over twenty percent of the worlds population. Thats foolish and prejudiced.
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05-22-2013, 10:32 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by krynski
No. We should blame the cause, not blame the religious offiliations of over twenty percent of the worlds population. Thats foolish and prejudiced.
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Wether you like it or not extremism is part of the Islamic religion and is growing. So saying the religion is part of the problem isn't ignorant it's fact
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05-22-2013, 10:34 PM
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#106
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The issue is dogma. Buying in to any brand of it leaves one generally more predisposed to act irrationally, as these dudes have. It obviously comes in multiple forms, but organized religion is undoubtedly one of history's most blatant culprits, and Islam in particular seems to be the most dangerous and prevalent that we're faced with in the present day.
I don't buy that religion often gets merely used as an "excuse" to commit acts of violence. These guys, I would imagine, have a largely misconstrued world view and have vested much of their lifestyle/beliefs into ancient scripture that was mashed together by illiterates in the desert almost two millennia ago.
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05-22-2013, 10:35 PM
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#107
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Sydney, NSfW
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Originally Posted by krynski
No. We should blame the cause, not blame the religious offiliations of over twenty percent of the worlds population. Thats foolish and prejudiced.
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Go on?
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05-22-2013, 10:43 PM
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#108
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Sydney, NSfW
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
Amazing you've been here this long and you can't differentiate between being an apologist and people against bigotry and ignorance. No one is defending the attack.
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Frankly I find it offensive that you brush legitimate concerns of citizens fearing for their safety from a particular cultural group aside as bigotry and ignorance. I'm wondering why no one hates the Japanese or Koreans for example? Psy notwithstanding.
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05-22-2013, 10:45 PM
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#109
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Behind Enemy Lines
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Originally Posted by scottish_flame
Wether you like it or not extremism is part of the Islamic religion and is growing. So saying the religion is part of the problem isn't ignorant it's fact
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Oh my goodness. No, it's not. Don't be a fool. That is prejudiced.
. It's not part of the religion, it's people who go out on their own making foolish claims, much as you are. If you say that "being american" is being a gun-owning blood-hungry jarhead, you are being prejudiced and atrributing the acts of a few to the acTs of many. This is exactly what you are doing.
I have no respect for you. I hope your racist and prejudiced life is severely impaired due to your ignorance and inability to relate to people of various cultures and backgrounds.
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05-22-2013, 10:49 PM
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#110
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Location: Lethbridge
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Can't call someone racist without backing it up I don't respect you or your left wing ways
Thes people are killing in the name of Allah. That's religious isn't it ?
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05-22-2013, 10:53 PM
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#111
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Behind Enemy Lines
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Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty
Go on?
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In particular, the individuals and organizations they represent (if linked).
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05-22-2013, 10:59 PM
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#112
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty
Frankly I find it offensive that you brush legitimate concerns of citizens fearing for their safety from a particular cultural group aside as bigotry and ignorance. I'm wondering why no one hates the Japanese or Koreans for example? Psy notwithstanding.
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This sums it up. Because if someone is going to do a terrorist attack 99 % of the time it's coming from the same "type" of people. But in today's society your a bigot or prejudiced.
The facts are on the table
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05-22-2013, 11:02 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Behind Enemy Lines
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Originally Posted by scottish_flame
Thes people are killing in the name of Allah. That's religious isn't it ?
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No, it is EXTREMISM. It is people who CLAIM to represent Islam, but DO NOT represent the majority of it's followers' ideology or practices.
These extremists are cults.
If you can't recognize that, you're a lost cause.
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05-22-2013, 11:04 PM
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#114
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Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty
Frankly I find it offensive that you brush legitimate concerns of citizens fearing for their safety from a particular cultural group aside as bigotry and ignorance. I'm wondering why no one hates the Japanese or Koreans for example? Psy notwithstanding.
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Frankly I couldn't care less what you find offensive. You're a bigot and not surprising you're from Sydney. That place has bigotry and racism in their culture.
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05-22-2013, 11:05 PM
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#115
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Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by krynski
no, it is extremism. It is people who claim to represent islam, but do not represent the majority of it's followers' ideology or practices.
These extremists are cults.
If you can't recognize that, you're a lost cause.
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it's extremist followers of islam who bomb innocent people
Who says they don't represent Islam. Who is anyone to tell people what they believe in a religion
Last edited by scottish_flame; 05-22-2013 at 11:07 PM.
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05-22-2013, 11:06 PM
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#116
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
Frankly I couldn't care less what you find offensive. You're a bigot and not surprising you're from Sydney. That place has bigotry and racism in their culture.
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That's prejudice
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05-22-2013, 11:11 PM
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#117
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Behind Enemy Lines
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Originally Posted by scottish_flame
it's extremist followers of islam who bomb innocent people
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Thanks for re-stating what I said.
I'm glad I'm getting through.
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05-22-2013, 11:11 PM
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#118
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida
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Originally Posted by scottish_flame
Canada is a land built by immigration, Europe is not thats a major difference i think
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umm....
there were natives before the people took over the areas. Irish, Germans, Scots were not there from the beginning.
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05-22-2013, 11:12 PM
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#119
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: On your last nerve...:D
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Originally Posted by scottish_flame
it's extremist followers of islam who bomb innocent people
Who says they don't represent Islam. Who is anyone to tell people what they believe in a religion
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It's extremist followers of xianity that bomb abortion clinics. Who says they don't represent xianity? Who is anyone to tell people what they believe in a religion.
One could pull up a butt ton of examples about you and your religion, beliefs, whatever.
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05-22-2013, 11:13 PM
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#120
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Originally Posted by scottish_flame
This sums it up. Because if someone is going to do a terrorist attack 99 % of the time it's coming from the same "type" of people. But in today's society your a bigot or prejudiced.
The facts are on the table
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Post the facts if you're suggesting 99% of terrorist attacks are perpetrated by Muslims.
Terrorists like Jared Loughner, Scott Roeder. Wade Page and Andrew Stack would disagree, but I have feeling they don't count based on their skin colour and religious beliefs.
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