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Old 05-21-2013, 10:57 PM   #101
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So you are saying that there are no moderate muslims in iran?

Or is it that moderate muslims outside of iran have no influence?

Or that canadians should be intolerant of shariah law, including within Canada's borders?

Or all of it?
If you've followed the news, you'd know that the moderate moslems in Iran are getting beaten, thrown in jail and shot when they protest.

Outside of Iran, I don't think other Moslems have any influence. Iran marches to their own drum and belong to a different sect than most others.

Sharial Law, in Canada, WTF.
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Old 05-22-2013, 12:07 AM   #102
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One serious point...the term used earlier was to destroy some culture or aspect of a culture or whatever, and that is how I understood the comment. I don't think a poster here wants to kill every Muslim nor did I read a post like that, and anyone who thinks a poster meant that is a fool.

The Ayatollah is the one calling the shots, the criticism clearly should be pointed at him, yet those supporters of the ideology should be criticized as well.

It was amazing how quickly Jews got thrown under that same brush even when they do not practice organized pedophilia.
I don't know about the Jews, but I'm pretty sure fundamentalist Mormons still marry underage brides. I do know that the conservative Jews in Israel are pretty bat #### crazy as well. There are video clips of the men yelling at secular women because they aren't sitting segregated on the bus.

Long story short. Fundamentalist religious people are all nuts, and we should start secretly radiating their nuts so they can't pass on the crazy. :P
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Old 05-22-2013, 12:49 AM   #103
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There are plenty of examples of Iranians working to improve human rights conditions within and from outside Iran. Just because their efforts are not on the front page of Canadian newspapers doesn't mean they don't exist.

http://www.iranhumanrights.org/frequ...ked-questions/
http://www.hra-iran.org/fa/

And I have huge respect for those fighting from within Iran, facing prison, torture, death for their opposition:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...ghts-activists

But it's not on the front page of our newspapers, so really, the moderate Muslims aren't doing much of anything. Only risking their own hides for the sake of their people. Oi.

As for:
"Expressing disgust and outrage over radical religious justifications for pedophilia."
Do you mean that you posted on a hockey forum? Well, I have to say, kudos to you. I guess that changes the world. If only the Iranians would have thought to post on a hockey forum they wouldn't have the problem of child marriage!!

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Old 05-22-2013, 02:31 AM   #105
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I am very well aware of the human rights atrocities in Iran. I have as great respect, or greater-for those who advance their efforts. In no way am i suggesting that their efforts are diminished.

This issue of state sanctioned child brides is not limited to Iran and the support of shariah law, where this garbage gets its basis is beyond Iran's borders.

Id like to see universal outrage on the child bride issue, and im not seeing it to the degree i would expect. Opposition? Yes. Outrage? Yes. But at the end of the day more than a million girls are forced into this situation every year.

The criticism isnt of all Islam or an Islamic culture. Instead it is a criticism of a culture where pedophiles feel entitled to justify their actions through state sanctioned marriages. This culture of pedophillic entitlement is what has to end.

In my mind, the solution has to come from within other branches of Islam demonstrating a better way, and expressing disappointment and outrage.
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