The Queen no longer just getting by....

[Magnum PEI]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

Bit of a stretch, she loved the media and that along with a drunk driver is what killed her.

Pretty sure it was a joke about the conspiracy theories. I loled.

[Red Potato Standing By]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

How is it not?

I guess only one extended family gets special privilages instead of 5 million whites out of nation of 50 million, but it's still an inequality.

Great, they haven't harmed anybody. I haven't harmed anybody since junior high. Where's my castle and palace?


That was 400 years ago, and the UK and Canada are democracies now anyways.



Most constitutional monarchies nowadays are either microstates in the Lesser Antilles or western democracies. The republic democracies that fit those categories are equally benign.

My apologies for some reason when I saw heredity my brain immediately just thought of hereditary diseases . As for the other part well unfortunately life is sometimes not fair. If everyone was rich and famous then no one would be. Besides till people keep showing enough support why would they stop?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

The Germans got rid of their Royal Family and eventually they had the Nazis, so maybe the Royal Family should be kept at all costs!

But hey, those concentration camps bring in tonnes of tourist revenue every year and that is a good thing!

[Magnum PEI]

Originally Posted by valo403

Are you seriously equating the presence of the monarchy to apartheid? Seriously?

Why is it the "right thing to do"? Just saying that isn't an argument.

Obviously there was an implied argument which I'm sure youve heard plenty of times before, but if you really want me to post it I will:

It's the 20th Century, it's ridiculous that our head of state is determined solely by who's vag he or she was spewed out of. I would argue this even if the position was 100% ceremonial, which it isn't, and if it was it would serve no purpose except for tradition. A tradition that included plunder slavery rape and genocide, yet we continue to adhere to one that is as outdated as the rest.

I guess most people are apathetic becuase it doesn't affect them on a day to day basis. But every time I look at a $20 or the back of a coin and I see someone who hasn't done anyhting remotely worthy of appearing on any country's money, it seems to somehow 'cheapen' our country. So if most people don't care one way or the other, why don't we do what's right and get rid of this vestigial system.

[Stillman16]

Originally Posted by WesternCanadaKing

I can't believe people think the monarchy is going anywhere. How many people watched Kate and Williams wedding last year? Wherever the royals go there are crowds to see them, hell even Charles and Camilla get people out to see them. The royal family represents the UK far more than any other of their institutions.

And why not, the Queen performs an excellent diplomatic function for them; she is a very well recognized figure who also happens to be apolitical. William and Kate are showing very promising signs of continuing this well into the future. To call the royal family totally irrelevant today betrays your ignorance a little bit.

Maybe they're totally irrelevant for Canada, but it doesn't really cost us anything to stick with them... but we will probably cut the cord someday. It is definitely in the UK's interest to keep them around though.

If that were true, fine, however, we pay for her to have 14 representatives, with no real power, and their exorbitant travel expenses. Plus we foot the bill for her (and probably her heirs) to grace us with her appearance.

That money would be better spent building a new arena here

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

But hey, those concentration camps bring in tonnes of tourist revenue every year and that is a good thing!

Former concentration camps are indeed large tourist attractions.

The town of 45,000 near Auschwitz sees 1.4 million visitors a year as an example. More than 30 million have visited Auschwitz. I'd say that has probably translated into tonnes of revenue.

I visited a concentration camp near Strasbourg once. Interesting and unsettling experience, particularly with the German voices around us, a student group from across the border.

You're probably joking but . . . just saying.

Cowperson

[WesternCanadaKing]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

Obviously there was an implied argument which I'm sure youve heard plenty of times before, but if you really want me to post it I will:

It's the 20th Century, it's ridiculous that our head of state is determined solely by who's vag he or she was spewed out of. I would argue this even if the position was 100% ceremonial, which it isn't, and if it was it would serve no purpose except for tradition. A tradition that included plunder slavery rape and genocide, yet we continue to adhere to one that is as outdated as the rest.

I guess most people are apathetic becuase it doesn't affect them on a day to day basis. But every time I look at a $20 or the back of a coin and I see someone who hasn't done anyhting remotely worthy of appearing on any country's money, it seems to somehow 'cheapen' our country. So if most people don't care one way or the other, why don't we do what's right and get rid of this vestigial system.

Have you met us? Canadians don't change things for the sake of it. Ever.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Magnum PEI

Obviously there was an implied argument which I'm sure youve heard plenty of times before, but if you really want me to post it I will:

It's the 20th Century, it's ridiculous that our head of state is determined solely by who's vag he or she was spewed out of. I would argue this even if the position was 100% ceremonial, which it isn't, and if it was it would serve no purpose except for tradition. A tradition that included plunder slavery rape and genocide, yet we continue to adhere to one that is as outdated as the rest.

I guess most people are apathetic becuase it doesn't affect them on a day to day basis. But every time I look at a $20 or the back of a coin and I see someone who hasn't done anyhting remotely worthy of appearing on any country's money, it seems to somehow 'cheapen' our country. So if most people don't care one way or the other, why don't we do what's right and get rid of this vestigial system.

First, when did this become about the presence of the Monarchy in Canada? That was not the issue presented by the OP, and it's a very different issue for a number of pretty obvious reasons.

Don't give me this tradition of "plunder slavery rape and genocide" garbage either, not unless you're willing to hold the various other figures who appear on currency to the same standard. Are you going to make that same argument towards those who lead early Canada and its treatment of the native population?