Feasters chance of staying on ....

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

Buffoon is a bit harsh. He's been average at best but he's not a buffoon by any means. The Cammy for Bourque trade was good, especially if Ramo comes over next year and can be a legit 1A/1B guy. Drafting Sven and Gaudreau were very good moves. Modin and PLL trades were nothing for nothing. Going to the KHL to look for some help was a good idea. In fact the way Cervenka has played the last few games, I wouldn't mind a new deal for him, at an appropriate price of course. His hands were completely tied with the Iggy situation. If he didn't trade him, you would've probably been upset that we didn't at least get "something" for him before he walked away a UFA. Admittedly, I don't get his and Weisbrod'd love affair with the NCAA, but I'll give him time to see how that plays out. Hudler was a good signing, Wideman was probably over priced but still a good pickup. Its hard to say how the ROR situation would've played out had it give through, but he had confirmation from Bill Daly, that it wouldn't have been a problem. I think some people like to be haters for the sake of being haters. He hasn't brought us a Stanley Cup in the 2 and a half years he's been here, well then he must be a horrible GM. He's no Ray Shero, but he's not worse than Tambellini or Garth Snow or Doug Maclean either.

He might not be worse than the 3 in bold, but he is on par with them. That should not be acceptable for this franchise, even if he is slighlty better than those 3, which i don't think he is.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Ark2

I think the word "buffoon" sums up his body of work with this team perfectly. Surely if I used it to describe Lowe you would not object? Take Lowe's worst season as president/GM and compare it to this one for Feaster. I don't see much difference.

I like to joke about the Oilers as much as anyone else here. You think they're the same and I don't.

As for the Jankowski pick, the jury is still out on that one, but I don't see how you can argue that it addresses our needs. Even the most optimistic members here will tell you that Jankowski is 2-3 years away from being a full-time NHLer. For a GM that proclaimed our goal was to win now, getting a player that may play in 3 years does not address our needs any differently than what the 29 other GM's that re-stock their cupboards at the draft do.

Given where the Flames were drafting they did well by picking Jankowski. Unless you have one of the first 5 picks it becomes a crap shoot as to which player has the best upside and who will make it at the NHL level. For all we know, Jankowski could develop into a very good player making the Flames look good for picking him.

I seem to remember Feaster trying to get Richards to sign here and play with Iginla. That said we don't know what goes on behind the scenes when it comes to trades or going after UFA's. When a need isn't adressed it's assumed Feaster did nothing when he may have tried but players chose to sign elsewhere

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

Buffoon is a bit harsh. He's been average at best but he's not a buffoon by any means. The Cammy for Bourque trade was good, especially if Ramo comes over next year and can be a legit 1A/1B guy. Drafting Sven and Gaudreau were very good moves. Modin and PLL trades were nothing for nothing. Going to the KHL to look for some help was a good idea. In fact the way Cervenka has played the last few games, I wouldn't mind a new deal for him, at an appropriate price of course. His hands were completely tied with the Iggy situation. If he didn't trade him, you would've probably been upset that we didn't at least get "something" for him before he walked away a UFA. Admittedly, I don't get his and Weisbrod'd love affair with the NCAA, but I'll give him time to see how that plays out. Hudler was a good signing, Wideman was probably over priced but still a good pickup. Its hard to say how the ROR situation would've played out had it give through, but he had confirmation from Bill Daly, that it wouldn't have been a problem. I think some people like to be haters for the sake of being haters. He hasn't brought us a Stanley Cup in the 2 and a half years he's been here, well then he must be a horrible GM. He's no Ray Shero, but he's not worse than Tambellini or Garth Snow or Doug Maclean either.

Re-signed and overplayed Sarich, gave him a NTC. Re-signed and overpaid Babchuk, gave him a NTC. Re-signed Blake Comeau. The ROR incident was a fiasco, whether Daly said it was fine or not, it was a massive oversight. King apparently admitted today they should have got Iggy to sign an agreement to be traded to one of the teams on the list, Feaster had his hands in that too.

*edit - Dion reminded me of the Brad Richards bullet we thankfully dodged.

On and then there is two years straight of guaranteeing this team will make the playoffs and his ridiculous catch phrases that are too numerous to even count off the top of my head. He is not a good GM. Buffoon is harsh but he is not competent.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

I never said he was a buffoon but I also think he's made a few gaffes that an average NHL GM wouldn't make. The drafting may or may not turn out, who knows but certainly a number of trades and signings he's been behind are suspect.

I know you didn't say buffoon. It ws a remark another poster made. I should have made that clearer - sorry.

I really think the few days left for the trade deadline plus the draft and free agent frenzy will give us a clearer picture, at least for me, if Feaster is taking us in the right direction. My leash is a bit longer than most and i'm wiling to give him more of a chance.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by Dion

I know you didn't say buffoon. It ws a remark another poster made. I should have made that clearer - sorry.

I really think the few days left for the trade deadline plus the draft and free agent frenzy will give us a clearer picture, at least for me, if Feaster is taking us in the right direction. My leash is a bit longer than most and i'm wiling to give him more of a chance.

I agree with you to an extent and am willing to give him to the deadline to make amens. I know you'll agree with me that this is an important juncture for this franchise and we really can't afford to screw this up. I really hope that something positive comes out of the next 5 or 6 days.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by JimmytheT

This guy is in the front office? I had no idea.



What has he done to warrant dismissal?

It sure explains alot

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

I agree with you to an extent and am willing to give him to the deadline to make amens. I know you'll agree with me that this is an important juncture for this franchise and we really can't afford to screw this up. I really hope that something positive comes out of the next 5 or 6 days.

If it's screwed up I have no doubt that Feaster and a few others will be gone and I hope they are. I just wish we could get a clearer definition of what the team plans to do. By next season he may or may not be the teams GM. I'm not sure I could handle the mess they have up in Edmonton

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Dion

If it's screwed up I have no doubt that Feaster and a few others will be gone and I hope they are. I just wish we could get a clearer definition of what the team plans to do. By next season he may or may not be the teams GM. I'm not sure I could handle the mess they have up in Edmonton

At least they have a plan, it might not be a good plan, but it is a plan.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Dion

Those are good draft picks that address the needs of the Flames. Should we dismiss what he did there? He may not be the best GM around but that hardly classifies him as a buffoon.

They have played 0 NHL games how do we know they are good draft picks?

[vilzeh]

Originally Posted by Dion

Why isn't Burke still running that team?

What I understood, that the Ownership wanted Luongo to Toronto, and Burke said: "hellZ no!". (Might be bull#### now because they haven't acquired him after he got canned).

And yeah, how in the hell did he bring Leafs to the ground? They are in a playoff spot right now, with the players & coach ----BURKE---- selected. Think.

He got Lupul out of Ducks also because he knew his potential, and see who is laughing now.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by vilzeh

What I understood, that the Ownership wanted Luongo to Toronto, and Burke said: "hellZ no!". (Might be bull#### now because they haven't acquired him after he got canned).

And yeah, how in the hell did he bring Leafs to the ground? They are in a playoff spot right now, with the players & coach ----BURKE---- selected. Think.

He got Lupul out of Ducks also because he knew his potential, and see who is laughing now.

Here's an interesting article on Burke. Seems to think Burke wanted Luongo....

6 Reasons Brian Burke had to go

[vilzeh]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

Here's an interesting article on Burke. Seems to think Burke wanted Luongo....

6 Reasons Brian Burke had to go

Wow, if that's true, then it's pretty horrible. Not a fan of the Kessel / Seguin / Hamilton trades either, but you'd never know about the draft picks, even though it was a "sure" shot. Just curious now, who made the Rask deal in Toronto?

Also, why I would like Burke is that he ain't afraid to do moves, there's always action when he's the GM, and I'm sure he would get Stempniak, Glencross, Stajan, Bouwmeester traded at this point somehow.

[Kananaskis04]

Here's a good article by Elliot Friedman with regards to the Flames past and future dealings and trust around the league.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opin...03/post-3.html


As well, it would be interesting to know the dynamic between Jeremy Jacobs and Murray Edwards, who were two of the key players on the owners side during the lockout.

[you got PHANUEFED]

I beieve Feaster and his team have 3 yrs to stock the shelves and ownership will be watching with a close eye to see how those shelves are stocked if the talent pool is not high end franchise material then he will get the axe if the pool looks strong then he will have a decent run as g.m.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Kananaskis04

Here's a good article by Elliot Friedman with regards to the Flames past and future dealings and trust around the league.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opin...03/post-3.html


As well, it would be interesting to know the dynamic between Jeremy Jacobs and Murray Edwards, who were two of the key players on the owners side during the lockout.

god dammit, these are the dark times

It's a far cry from the days when Hotchkiss was still here

[Canada 02]

screw Brian Burke

the next GM of the Flames should be from Hanna, Alberta, and I'm not talking about Lanny

Flames should do what they can to pull Jim Nill out of Detroit

Other good options would be Paul Fenton and Ron Hextall

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by you got PHANUEFED

I beieve Feaster and his team have 3 yrs to stock the shelves and ownership will be watching with a close eye to see how those shelves are stocked if the talent pool is not high end franchise material then he will get the axe if the pool looks strong then he will have a decent run as g.m.

What exactly has Feaster done to warrant getting another 3 years? He's lucky to just get another 3 days.

[Owee18]

How feaster stayed on after thr RoR fiasco is not known, but now he has made the Flames the laughing stock of the NHL. We in reallity got nothing for Iggy. If he was suppose to leave for us to get pieces to rebuild,then we are in for a long haul. The other GM's now see what we got for the franchise player. If we think we are getting anything better for the rest of the team we are dreaming. The Owners have to start the rebuild from the mgrs down. KK basically throws iggy under the bus, and a GM that gives him away. How do we expect to get any better when those people are then ones we have to look at to get it done.

[Enoch Root]

From Friedman's article, this summs it up perfectly for me:

First, there was a near-fiasco with the Ryan O'Reilly offer sheet. Now this. Iginla held the hammer, so it shouldn't be a surprise Calgary didn't get Pittsburgh's best prospects.

But I'm a big believer that the best organizations work like the perfect machine. No matter what happens, no matter what curveball life throws at them, they adjust almost seamlessly. You might be working like crazy behind the scenes, but, in the public eye, it's all cool.

That's not happening in southern Alberta. Nothing seems to occur without controversy or confusion. You can't have that, especially now.

Feaster's the front man, so he gets the blame. That comes with the job. But, is it deeper than that? Is this an organizational issue? Is it something or someone the public doesn't see?

These are important questions that need to be answered. This is the future of the franchise

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Owee18

How feaster stayed on after thr RoR fiasco is not known, but now he has made the Flames the laughing stock of the NHL. We in reallity got nothing for Iggy. If he was suppose to leave for us to get pieces to rebuild,then we are in for a long haul. The other GM's now see what we got for the franchise player. If we think we are getting anything better for the rest of the team we are dreaming. The Owners have to start the rebuild from the mgrs down. KK basically throws iggy under the bus, and a GM that gives him away. How do we expect to get any better when those people are then ones we have to look at to get it done.

the franchise player was 35 and a ufa who would only waive to go to one team