Karlsson injured

[Codes]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Jarome Iginla suffered a knee injury in 2007 on a play against the boards that happens thousands of times a year with out similar injuries. What's your point?

And despite your claims otherwise, yes, you are demonizing Cooke, and yes, you are trying to argue it was deliberate. Don't insult people's intelligence by suggesting otherwise.

That said, it's Matt Cooke. Of course people are going to assume guilt. That is Matt Cooke's legacy, and he earned it fair and square. It was my first reaction too. But when you take a step back and look at it without the names involved, there's just nothing there to accuse him of.

That is a fair enough evaluation, Resolute. I think the point I was trying to convey was that I'll always have a shred of doubt on the play. I agree, my initial post probably harbored more insinuation on Cooke's part than I meant to.

It's a gruesome injury that I would wish on no-one. I wish the best and speediest recovery to Karlsson.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Codes

Oh FFS, Valo, how do you explain away a play that happens thousands of time a year with no similar injury? Listen, I said I don't think Cooke intended to do anything, but because of the person involved, there will always be a shadow of doubt. Cool down, man.

Pretty easily actually, it's a freak injury. Freak injuries are called freak injuries because they occur in situations that we see all the time, with no harmful effects. If Cooke's foot is a 1/4" in a different direction nobody here would have even known this play happened, and the only incident from that shift anyone would be discussing is the missed whistle on the puck in the netting.

[Fire]

I would kick Cooke out of the league just to be on the safe side.

[Neeper]

Originally Posted by sun

I don't understand why your Norris winning, $6.5M/year dman isn't wearing those kevlar socks. Seems like a no-brainer.

This was the first thought that crossed my mind. I use kevlar socks when I play even though it's only rec hockey, I am not taking any chances. The socks feel like normal socks. I don't get why every player wouldn't have these. $30 well spent.

[Tinordi]

I just wish he's able to come back at 100%. Probably the best skater in the whole league and one of the most exciting players. Would be a terrible shame if his game is fundamentally altered.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

I just wish he's able to come back at 100%. Probably the best skater in the whole league and one of the most exciting players. Would be a terrible shame if his game is fundamentally altered.

Especially considering it was on a play that should have been whistled down.

And I would say at the hands of a player that should have been railroaded out of the league a few seasons ago (accident or not), but apparently some people are fans of his now.

[SofaProfessor]

Major hole in my fantasy team's blue line now. Freak injury, though.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

I just wish he's able to come back at 100%. Probably the best skater in the whole league and one of the most exciting players. Would be a terrible shame if his game is fundamentally altered.

Well it can't get much worse defensively, injured or not.

[t0rrent98]

Time to trade Jay Bouw to the Sens....

[valo403]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Especially considering it was on a play that should have been whistled down.

And I would say at the hands of a player that should have been railroaded out of the league a few seasons ago (accident or not), but apparently some people are fans of his now.

So looking at a play objectively means your a fan of Matt Cooke?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Fire

I would kick Cooke out of the league just to be on the safe side.

Why, not to overly credit Cooke, but he has done of very good job of changing his game and cleaning it up over the last couple of years and become a better player because of it.

[East Coast Flame]

Karlsson should be fine in the long run. Teemu had a similar injury a ways back and he turned out to have a pretty decent career.

[Canada 02]

seen quite a few tweets about kevlar socks that are cut resistant; why don't all players wear these?

just googled one brand that was $32 a pair. Not a huge expense when you are talking about million dollar athletes

[Spinach]

Originally Posted by moon

Sens fans are for the most part idiots so it isn't that surprising.

When your biggest rival is the leafs, some of the idiocy from Toronto is bound to infiltrate your fan base.

I rarely get squeamish watching a hockey game, and that injury really bothered me. Karlsson's a great player, not nearly as bad defensively as some observers suggest, and was the Sens' best asset. With him and Spezza gone, it'll be tough for them to make the playoffs, and anything that makes the leafs' road there easier is flat out terrible.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by the_professsor

It is odd, a hockey play that happens around 30 times per game (absolute guess here) in the NHL, given 1230 games played per year lets assume this tactic started 5 years ago? This type of play has occurred 185,000 times. The one time it goes wrong and looks who's involved....

So in a split second Cooke decides to sever Karlssons tendon? Is that what you believe?

[flamesfan6]

Originally Posted by the_professsor

It is odd, a hockey play that happens around 30 times per game (absolute guess here) in the NHL, given 1230 games played per year lets assume this tactic started 5 years ago? This type of play has occurred 185,000 times. The one time it goes wrong and looks who's involved....

Just because it doesn't happen a lot and this case turned bad, doesn't mean that it was intentional or anything more than a freak accident. I ride my bike to work almost every day, that one day that car hit me did he do it on purpose? no and that's hundreds of times but the chance is there, etc... I could keep listing off things that almost never happen. This could of easily been someone else instead of Cooke in the same exact place and time and have the same result.

people get hit and fall against the boards A LOT more times than that, yet a zednik incident has not really happened since his or really before his often.

Just because it happens once in 185,000 times doesn't mean it was "intentional", it may not happen for another 1850,000 times. In fact it's amazing it doesn't happen more often.



it's the name that is involved in this incident that people are just jumping to "it was intentional", take out karlsson or cooke and everyone would be commenting it was a freak play.

[Itse]

There might have been an incident like this that very few know about/remember because the players involved weren't a star and a player infamous for his hits. If some fourth liners career has ended for this, nobody misses him and thus remembers the injury.

Btw, the very existence of kevlar hockey socks is IMO a strong indication that these injuries are far from one in a million. I believe Nike has socks that have kevlar only on that area.

[bluloc]

Originally Posted by $ven27

Cooke is "always involved" because about 90% of his previous incidents were intentional/dirty, however this one wasn't.

You're probably right ,if it were any other player no one would bat an eye.

[Wronskian]

Not a chance it was intentional, if it was, the Cooke is the Wayne Gretzky of dirty hockey players.

[killer_carlson]

For what it is worth, i had surgery on my foot on Tuesday and they took scalpel to achilles as part of it. It hurts like a son of a gun. Totally non weight bearing for at least 2 weeks and then another 6 of intensive treatment. Tough to imagine there is any leg strength training you can do in that 8 weeks anyways.