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Old 02-07-2013, 04:57 PM   #101
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The Kovalchuk deal wasn't against the CBA at the time but the NHL deemed it to be an attempt at salary cap circumvention and penalized the Devils.

Am I wrong that the NHL is not powerless to act here?
Islanders weren't below the floor when the deal was made, though, so what ground do they have to stand on? They're $9 million above the floor now.
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:04 PM   #102
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I think Snow is a terrible GM and you don't often have the chance to applaud him, but that was a smart, smart move.
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:06 PM   #103
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Islanders weren't below the floor when the deal was made, though, so what ground do they have to stand on? They're $9 million above the floor now.
Yup, and now they can trade Visnovski.
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:07 PM   #104
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Poor Tim. May as well drive him to the desert, give him a gun and one bullet.
It's the Islanders, not Coyotes.
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:23 PM   #105
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Islanders weren't below the floor when the deal was made, though, so what ground do they have to stand on? They're $9 million above the floor now.
Okay? everything I have read says that they were under the cap before this. Capgeek shows them at $53,042,156 with Thomas.
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:27 PM   #106
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Poor Tim. May as well drive him to the desert, give him a gun and one bullet.
Pretty sure he has many guns and many bullets already.
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:53 PM   #107
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Poor Tim. May as well drive him to the desert, give him a gun and one bullet.
I don't think anyone can have sympathy for Thomas. He decides not to show up so the team ships him into exile. Who cares?
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:05 PM   #108
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I feel no pity for Thomas

One of my favorite players turned into one of my more disliked ones. Big ego.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:07 PM   #109
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smart trade for Boston. 2nd round pick for a guy that isn't even wanting to play.
Shipping him to garbage NYI is classic Jacobson. Don't anger the old man.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:09 PM   #110
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This whole Thomas situation has been so bizarre. On the one hand, it's kind of stupid that a team is stuck with the cap hit of a player who publicly goes kinda nuts. I get the whole 35 year old signing rule 99.9% of the time, but in this situation it worked against the spirit in which it was written. On the other hand, I'm not sure that a team should be able to trade a player who is not going to play just to solve a cap problem. The whole thing is just so stupid.

Meh, good on Chiarelli to work the system. Hopefully that extra space is put to good use.

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Old 02-07-2013, 06:15 PM   #111
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Thomas will never report to the Islanders so they have effectively just lowered the cap floor for themselves for life.
I can't imagine you can toll a guy's contract once he files retirement papers.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:26 PM   #112
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Yup, and now they can trade Visnovski.
Which they will after he plays a couple games with them. It is likely how they got him to report.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:02 PM   #113
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I need a little help here with these scenarios.

2012-13 is the last year of his contract, correct?

Now that he is with the Isles, if he doesn't report, he is considered suspended, and when he comes back he will have to be paid his final year, correct?

If he was with the Bruins still, would he count against the cap until he officially retired or can the Bruins choose to cut him loose after a year?

If Isles do this trick for a few years, can Thomas report at 50 years old and 250 pounds and get his 5 million dollar check? Do the Isles make him GM at that point?
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:03 PM   #114
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He saved Wang some cash but the team is still a compilation of hot garbage and John Tavares.
Hot garbage huh? I'd take it:
Okposo, Moulson, Grabner, Streit, Hamonic, Neilsen, Bailey, Joensuu.
And more so their prospects:
Strome, De Haan, Donovan, El Niņo, Nelson, Kabanov, Petrov. Even some of their mid level prospects like Czizikas or Rakhshani I wouldn't wipe my nose at.

Snow and Wang get crap, and rightly so, for the Dipeitro insanity but they have an awful lot of talent besides Tavares.
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Wang should see if he can sign Manti T'eo's girlfriend to a contract.
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Lol this awesome. They should just have Thomas there for after game interviews!
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:42 PM   #119
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Hey if the Islanders are still under the floor then they can sign me. I really don't mind not playing.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:47 PM   #120
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so Thomas counts against the Isles team cap; does he count against the players total share?
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