02-01-2013, 12:55 PM
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#101
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
Standings death for Seth? Really? REALLY?!?!.....You can come up with a more clever title then that. How about "Get kicked in the Stones for Seth Jones"?
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Boner for Joner?
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02-01-2013, 12:55 PM
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#102
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by The Yen Man
Boner for Joner?
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Joner Jam 2013?
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02-01-2013, 01:10 PM
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#103
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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How about, "Double Shift Iggy & Fall for Mackinny"?
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02-01-2013, 01:13 PM
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#104
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Franchise Player
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How about "trade Iginla for a first and a D prospect to maximize the asset, use that late first round pick to take another D man and use our potentially high pick to take a skilled potential number 1 centerman"
It just rolls off the tongue!
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02-01-2013, 01:13 PM
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#105
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Lifetime Suspension
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If the Flames totally falter and get a top 3 pick I hope it's this year. A shortened season instead of 82 games of full suck would be much better on the ol' ticker.
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02-01-2013, 01:17 PM
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#106
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Neither here nor there
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"Master**** at the thought of getting Nate"?
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02-01-2013, 01:26 PM
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#107
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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How some of you guys call yourselves fans amazes me, 5 games into the season and already counting out the flames hoping for a 1st overall. Hey OP take a drive 3 hours north you would fit in better.
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02-01-2013, 01:32 PM
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#108
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Diemenz
How some of you guys call yourselves fans amazes me, 5 games into the season and already counting out the flames hoping for a 1st overall. Hey OP take a drive 3 hours north you would fit in better.
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If you're not a fan, you wouldn't even take the time to post here. A fan doesn't have to accept or enjoy the status quo or the direction of the team, if a person crapping on the team has the best interests of the organization at heart for the long term ... they're a fan.
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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02-01-2013, 01:37 PM
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#109
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Lifetime Suspension
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Took a punch to the taint for Nate!
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02-01-2013, 01:39 PM
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#110
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: B.C.
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I don’t want to see us lose just so we can get a better draft choice. However, it’s time to try something different than the same old, same old. If we end up with that “losing draft choice” at least we tried. It’s time for many of us to realize that Iginla just doesn’t have it any more. He doesn’t have the foot speed and as a result has lost much of his scoring ability. He’s still a great mucker and puck handler along the boards and in front of the net. If we’re going to keep him, that’s the role he should be used in. Stop trying to set him up for his patented slap shot. It’s not working and hasn’t for a couple of years. Let Iginla become a set-up man. Plus, they definitely need to shake up the line he’s on. It doesn’t work. Leave the Czech line together as the #1 line. Try Iginla, Stempniak and Backlund as the #2 line. Iginla plays the left side on the current pp so leave him on the left side. You end up with a couple of grinders with scoring ability and Backlund’s effort, speed and hopefully scoring. I still haven’t figured out why they move Stajan off the Czech line on the pp. That line works great, why spit it up when you have a man advantage. Sorry but it doesn’t make sense to me to do so unless you have a weakness on that line, which you don’t. Try the new Iginla line as your second pp unit. You can rotate Tanguay and Baertschi (when he returns) through that line till you find a winning combination. Your #3 line would consist of Glencross, Tanguay and Jackman (better yet move someone down and bring Horak back up). Cammalleri hasn’t been performing in the role they’ve had him in so put him on the #4 line with any combination of Jones, Jackman, Comeau, or Begin (less whomever goes down). At the moment we’re a one line team. It’s time to try something radical. We spend too much time trying to create a #1 line, a so so #2 line and a couple of additional throw away lines. We have enough talent to put together 3 good lines and a decent 4th. Come on Hartley, show me you care.
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02-01-2013, 01:43 PM
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#111
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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The reason I like forwards over d-men is that they make an impact faster... if you're picking #1 you should be planning for peak on the third year of said draft pick's entry-level contract.
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02-01-2013, 02:32 PM
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#112
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by SebC
The reason I like forwards over d-men is that they make an impact faster... if you're picking #1 you should be planning for peak on the third year of said draft pick's entry-level contract.
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There are two things that recent history shows us:
1) you have a much higher chance of success with a lottery pick if you pick a forward vs a defenseman
2) #1 D is way easier to acquire via trade than a #1 C
If you look at championship teams over the last 20 years, there are way more #1 Cs drafted from lottery picks than #1 Ds. Doughty and Niedermayer (with NJ) are the only Ds taken top 3 by the respective team.
Compare that to Cs, where every single Stanley Cup winner over the last 20 years except the Devils has a home-grown #1 C and many of them were lottery picks.
Draft a #1 C - it is the only way to acquire them.
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02-01-2013, 02:45 PM
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#113
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
If the Flames totally falter and get a top 3 pick I hope it's this year. A shortened season instead of 82 games of full suck would be much better on the ol' ticker.
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I'm still worried about the Flames sucking and then getting the shaft via the revised draft lottery.
That just smacks of Calgary Flames.
They dont tank, but should get a high pick but then the draft lottery revision sees a team jump 8 spots and snag our pick.
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
There are two things that recent history shows us:
1) you have a much higher chance of success with a lottery pick if you pick a forward vs a defenseman
2) #1 D is way easier to acquire via trade than a #1 C
If you look at championship teams over the last 20 years, there are way more #1 Cs drafted from lottery picks than #1 Ds. Doughty and Niedermayer (with NJ) are the only Ds taken top 3 by the respective team.
Compare that to Cs, where every single Stanley Cup winner over the last 20 years except the Devils has a home-grown #1 C and many of them were lottery picks.
Draft a #1 C - it is the only way to acquire them.
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It isnt the only way, but its the most consistent way. I agree with that, if there is a #1C anywhere close then you have to take him.
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02-01-2013, 02:52 PM
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#114
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Franchise Player
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I think a franchise defence man is what this team needs as it rebuilds.
Goaltending depth is good, maybe not Kipper caliber but we won't know until they get a real chance. You never know with goalies. When he was languishing in the 3rd spot in SJ plenty of teams probably passed on Kipper and look how that turned out for the Flames.
Forwards are OK. Apart from a franchise centre I would rather see the Flames draft D. When the Flames trade away the core this year the returning draft picks should fill some scoring holes.
Hartley is the right guy to showcase vets and increase their trade value. IMO it all makes sense now.
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02-01-2013, 02:54 PM
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#115
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Franchise Player
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Puttin' up with the hate for Nate
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02-01-2013, 02:56 PM
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#116
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
I'm still worried about the Flames sucking and then getting the shaft via the revised draft lottery.
That just smacks of Calgary Flames.
They dont tank, but should get a high pick but then the draft lottery revision sees a team jump 8 spots and snag our pick.
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I've been thinking about this myself. It would be so Calgary Flames to finally to finish in the bottom 5 and end up moving a few spots back via the lottery.
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02-01-2013, 02:59 PM
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#117
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
I'm still worried about the Flames sucking and then getting the shaft via the revised draft lottery.
That just smacks of Calgary Flames.
They dont tank, but should get a high pick but then the draft lottery revision sees a team jump 8 spots and snag our pick.
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See this is much better. I would much rather have this worry than have the popular opinion to be the only way to get better is to tank for your sure fire top pick(s). Its nice to see the league doing SOMETHING to try and prevent purposeful tanking.
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02-01-2013, 03:04 PM
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#118
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Franchise Player
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Isn't the only change to the lottery that any non playoff team can move up to 1st? Unless I'm mistaken the most any team can move down the draft order from their standings position is still only one spot.
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02-01-2013, 03:35 PM
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#119
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by opendoor
Unless I'm mistaken the most any team can move down the draft order from their standings position is still only one spot.
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If anybody can find a way, it's us.
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02-02-2013, 03:22 AM
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#120
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Locke
I'm envisioning the Flames getting royally screwed by the revision to the draft lottery system.
This time the team will finish in a place where they should get a good pick only to get screwed by the new lottery system and get leapfrogged.
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Most you can drop is one pick. Not sure how you could be getting a good pick and get leapfrogged and still not be getting a good pick. If we finish last and get leapfrogged and get the 2nd pick, oh well! If we finish 4th and get leapfrogged and get the 5th pick, oh well!
Flames had never had a top 5 pick in their history.
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