03-05-2013, 05:58 AM
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3 points would be a huge factor in making the league more competitive & entertaining. In the English Premier League the 2-points difference between getting a win or a draw is a huge motivator for teams who need to compete for places in the standings. Come to think of it, relegation is a great motivator as well. If the Oilers were an English football team they would be rotting in the 3rd division now, based on the last 3 years of tanking it & finishing bottom 3.
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03-05-2013, 07:29 AM
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#102
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Draft Pick
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Originally Posted by Mister Yamoto
No way. It's bad enough that there are two kinds of losses. Now we make it so there are also two kinds of wins?
Just get rid of the loser point. Sport is all about winning and losing. Have a system that is all about winning and losing.
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I agree.
Basketball does not give the overtime loser 1 point, and baseball can sometimes play 10 or 12 extra innings, but the loser gets no points. I think the NHL should not be giving loser points either.
I think NHL should just go to wins and losses and games back like all other leagues are.
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03-05-2013, 07:34 AM
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#103
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but the NHL can't go to the 3 point win system because Europe already took it, and they don't wanna use the same system.
Politics!
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03-05-2013, 07:48 AM
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#104
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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Same rules, and straight win/losses. I would hypothesize the number of games going to ot and shootouts would decrease dramatically. With less games going to SOs, shootouts would have less of an effect on standing than they do right now.
The incentive to take every game to OT is ruining the regular season. And judging by the increased number of upsets in the playoffs, the regular season rules are not doing a good job of picking the best teams. And I don't buy that the standing would not change much under a win/loss system. The results of games would be quite different if everyone was playing for a win instead of just not to lose before OT.
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03-05-2013, 08:14 AM
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#105
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#1 Goaltender
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I didn't read the thread,
But yes they need to keep Overtime/Shotouts. They are great for casual fans.
Yes a regulation win should be worth 3 points. Its just stupid that a overtime game hurts the 13 teams not in the game more then a regulation game.
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03-05-2013, 08:24 AM
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#106
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vilzeh
but the NHL can't go to the 3 point win system because Europe already took it, and they don't wanna use the same system.
Politics!
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What???? Should this have been in green text
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03-05-2013, 08:37 AM
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#107
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UKflames
What???? Should this have been in green text 
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Perhaps
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03-05-2013, 09:21 AM
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#108
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chiefs Kingdom, Yankees Universe, C of Red.
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Originally Posted by UKflames
Maybe it's a cultural thing but I never understand this theory that you have to have a winner every game, why can't you have a draw. Both teams have fought it out for the required time allowed for the game and neither did enough to get a win, end of.
People say a 3 point system creates an inbalanced league and teams cannot catch up if they fall too far behind, totally wrong. In soccer (sorry for using the example) we have a 3 point system, in one season Team A were 12 points clear of the second placed team with over half of the season gone. The media had Team A as champions, no one would catch them, done deal. Team B not only caught them they took the title, it can be done.
A 12 point lead is only three games, it looks a lot but it really isn't. You go on a losing streak and you drop to the pack pretty quickly.
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Soccer is gay. So the NHL would never consider any of their sissy rules.
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03-05-2013, 09:24 AM
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#109
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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I'll tell you what's 'gay'. You could lose 82 games in a season and still end up with 82 points!
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03-05-2013, 10:00 AM
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#110
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago Native relocated to the stinking desert of Utah
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlameZilla
3 points would be a huge factor in making the league more competitive & entertaining. In the English Premier League the 2-points difference between getting a win or a draw is a huge motivator for teams who need to compete for places in the standings. Come to think of it, relegation is a great motivator as well. If the Oilers were an English football team they would be rotting in the 3rd division now, based on the last 3 years of tanking it & finishing bottom 3.
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In baseball, my Cubs would be relegated down to LITTLE LEAGUE!!!
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03-05-2013, 10:16 AM
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#111
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UKflames
Maybe it's a cultural thing but I never understand this theory that you have to have a winner every game, why can't you have a draw. Both teams have fought it out for the required time allowed for the game and neither did enough to get a win, end of.
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Heck, I'm even in favour of this, including the removal of OT for the regular season. In the past draws sucked because there was incentive to play it safe since a tie wasn't damaging and was better than a lost. With a 3 point system of 1 point for a tie, and 3 wins for a victory, it does give a lot more incentive and pressure to win it in regulation than to go for the draw, because in the end that draw really doesn't help you and if you ultimately want to make the playoffs you'll have to win.
I think this would be good because it removes the issues overtime does have in the regular season. Right now it's not real hockey because you only roll 2 lines of 4 on 4 since it's only 5 minutes. So the middle and bottom tier players aren't even involved in the game anymore once regulation is done. With removing OT, the game will only be played under game situations that truly's mimic 'real' hockey. Not to mention it helps on player safety/fatigue since they won't have to continue playing more than usual and on chewed ice, thus reducing risk of injury. TV networks would like it too since games should always end right around the end of the game timeslot; therefore not having to worry about temporary programming conflict. (That's great news for us Flames fans)
It would make OT in the playoffs a true exclusive event, making it even more exciting than it already is.
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03-05-2013, 11:17 AM
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#112
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: not lurking
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I'd prefer just about anything over the current system. Going back to wins and ties. Or doing two points for a win, 0 for a loss, regardless of whether it's regulation, OT, shootout. Or going with a 3 point system.
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