MechWarrior Online goes Open Beta today! (Free to play)

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by AR_Six

My PC isn't new but it was good when I made it - AMD 965 X4 at 3.4ghz / Radeon 9850 / 8gb DDR3 1333 ram in 2x4 configuration. I'm assuming I should be able to run this on pretty high-qual settings when I get around to installing it?

9850? Isn't that from like, 8 years ago?

I assume you meant 6850/7850 which means yeah, I would expect you could jack things up pretty decently.

[AR_Six]

Sorry I think I mean 5850. Maybe 5870? Can't remember. The generation before the most recent one. The new ones which I think were the 6800 series were released already when I built it but they had lower performance scores so I ended up buying the previous gen. This would've been 2 years ago maybe.

[PsYcNeT]

ATI is currently on the 7xxx series, so if you're one back it would be a 6850/6870.

The 5850 isn't bad though, and specs a bit higher than a 6850 even in some games.

[AR_Six]

Yeah it's all coming back to me now, I think it was the 5870 because I remember reading this stuff.
http://www.overclock.net/t/864213/w-...s-6870-vs-5870

Anyway I guess I'll have to fire it up and see.

[Igotnothing]

I have nothing to add except to say this game has possessed my brain. I keep thinking about different load outs and such. God I hope they have an app for this game. Either for building on generic mechs or linked directly to your account. One that lets you make loadouts that is.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Igotnothing

I have nothing to add except to say this game has possessed my brain. I keep thinking about different load outs and such. God I hope they have an app for this game. Either for building on generic mechs or linked directly to your account. One that lets you make loadouts that is.

Oh god...

A man can dream, can't he?

(Offtopic, but when did CP steal the goon-parrot?)

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Igotnothing

I have nothing to add except to say this game has possessed my brain. I keep thinking about different load outs and such. God I hope they have an app for this game. Either for building on generic mechs or linked directly to your account. One that lets you make loadouts that is.

There was a download for doing that linked in this thread, but I could not get it to work.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

After installing I seem to get this error...

"FRead did not read expected number of byte from file, only 128 of 0 bytes read"

Any thoughts on how to fix this?

Edit: Bah-- there doesn't seem to be a fix as of yet per this... Guess I will have to wait...

http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/653...st__p__1312553

[Igotnothing]

What's the general opinion on endo steel? I see it takes up a bunch of slots, but I have some slots to spare, and with the small lasers generating more heat I could definitely use some more heat sinks. Generally how much tonnage will it free up? It says it's 14% of teh mech size, but I dont' really have a frame of reference for that number lol.

Mech in question is a jenner (i forget the variant, D maybe) with 4 small lasers, 2 streak 2's and an ams. JJ's pulled off.

As well, the Mech specific perks. Is it worth getting all variants to get the elite perks? I do enjoy my jenner but I'm also curious about a Hunchback with an AC20. I suppose it comes down to a matter of personal choice I guess i'm wondering if anyone has gone the route of buying all the variants or not.

As I ponder this more I realize I'd definitely need to invest in more mech bays. Very crafty on their part haha.

[Rathji]

Endo steel is definitely worth it, Ferro fibrous is not quite as worthwhile, as it noticably increases your repair bill, so make sure you are good with the mech you are in before committing.

As for tonnage it will free up. Standard Internal Structure is 10% of your weight, so 3.5 tons on a 35 ton Jenner. Endosteel is 5%, so 1.75 tons (probably rounded up to 1.8). So that is easy to calculate.

Ferro Fibbrous is a bit harder, but only because the amount of armor you have is variable on a mech, and not dependant upon the tonnage. It packs more armor points into the same tonnage. So if you have 320 points of armor (10 tons) of armor, it becomes 12% lighter, so that 320 points would only weigh 8.8 tons. Of course, the end result is you can't really do anything with .2 tons, so you just add that in additional armor points, and gain 1 ton. (or shed .8 tons of armor, and add 2 tons).

Hope that makes sense.

I just finished my second mech, a Jenner, as I sold my Cicada when I was really frustrated with the armament I could loadout (due to me buying the wrong variant). I am in the same boat as you, do I pick up another Jenner and try for the elite perks?

Really, it doesn't take much play time to gain the exp, I was off sick yesterday and managed to finish the Jenner completely in about about 6-8 hours of playtime. It takes a couple hours to earn a million c-bills, on the conservative side, so in that time you could easily make enough to purchase another variant, not counting upgrades etc.

[Igotnothing]

Ya I'm pretty sure I see where you're coming from. Must have misread the tool tip.

I see you're point in regards to the armour as well. For the most part I think I do ok with my piloting. However, it's to easy to get hammered by missiles and melt into a puddle if you get caught out. For the most part I get the upper hand against most of the lights I've gone against. As well, I've done a better job of curbing my chasing habits so I don't get caught out in the open quite as much, and the ams definitely helps, but I suspect with the cata being a trial mech, the amount of missiles in play is only going to increase haha.

I went for the the 'best' Jenner, and while the variant with 6 laser hardpoints I would consider a side grade, the other variant definitely seems like a downgrade in comparison to either of the other 2. As you said though, getting c-bills is pretty easy and with very little effort I have enough to buy a second jenner, that's with a lot spent on changing my loadout on my current jenner (I generally keep all my weaponry, JJ's and heatsinks etc instead of selling them). I think I'll end up pursuing all variants of the jenner, although I think I might first get a hunchback so I can have some variety in my mech choices. 4 mechs will fill up all my bays without requiring me having to spend real money yet.

[Rathji]

I suspect that you can only have 1 mech of each type selected at any one time, so from an exp standpoint it totally makes sense to do a medium mech first so you are gaining exp even if quit out of a match to start a new one right away, since you don't gain any exp at all in trial mechs.

Your mention of Mech Bays has me thinking, If someone purchases something like a Mech Bay or C-Bill Mech, would they still have it after the Beta (and the wipes are done)?

I am not adverse into putting money into a game like this, after all, I would normally be shelling out at least $20-40, at minimum, for a game anyway.

[Igotnothing]

Ah yes, that's a good point as far as active mechs go. I guess I'll keep tweaking my current Jenner and get a non-light mech to keep active games.

I cant' imagine that if you spent actual money they would wipe that out. At the minimum I would expect you'd refunded in game currency, I forget what it's called. At which point you could just buy what you want all over again. A friend told me that there will be no wipe when it goes release, I'm not sure he's right but it's food for thought at the least. Likewise, I fully expect I'll be dropping money on this game. Given how much I spent on HoN and all that was cosmetic stuff. At least with MWO you can things like Yen Lo Wang, which I realize you could probably produce the loadout for anyway, but then it wouldn't be named and have the pretty paint job haha.

[cDnStealth]

You can have 4 of the same type of mech selected if you want. You can even purchase (and have selected) multiples of the same variant. Elite is definitely worth it.

As far as I know the start of open beta was to be the last wipe. However, if they do wipe everything again you will be refunded the MC value of anything you purchased with MC. They've been doing this for founders for months.

Also, just to clear something up with endo/ferro fibrous; the tonnage freed by applying one of these upgrades will always be rounded down to nearest half ton. For something like a Jenner I would recommend taking an XL Engine over endo steel.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by cDnStealth

You can have 4 of the same type of mech selected if you want. You can even purchase (and have selected) multiples of the same variant. Elite is definitely worth it.

As far as I know the start of open beta was to be the last wipe. However, if they do wipe everything again you will be refunded the MC value of anything you purchased with MC. They've been doing this for founders for months.

Also, just to clear something up with endo/ferro fibrous; the tonnage freed by applying one of these upgrades will always be rounded down to nearest half ton. For something like a Jenner I would recommend taking an XL Engine over endo steel.

How would that impact repair costs?

[cDnStealth]

Originally Posted by Rathji

How would that impact repair costs?

An XL on a light mech should still allow you to make money even if you lose. Also, pro tip folks; turn auto re-arm off. After every match you are automatically re-armed to 75% for free.

[Igotnothing]

Thanks for the info. When I next get on I'll look into the xl motor. Depending on cost I might just get a second jenner and keep working towards elite first. Decisions decisions. But these are good decisions to have.

[Igotnothing]

Took a look at the equivalent xl engine last night. I assume that a standard 245 and an XL 245 run the same, weight and slots aside?

Anyway, it's more than my mech haha. So I think I'm going to go with a second Jenner and once I get closer to elite on my Jenner I'll decide on a primary Jenner and equip that with an XL. I realize that this isn't particularly interesting, I just have no one else to talk about this game with

[Rathji]

Yes, the 245 is the same either XL or standard. The cost is really prohibitive, but it will save you 7 tons, or if you went with the 250, 5.5 tons but you gain an extra heat sink with no slot cost, which if you are using double heat sinks, means the XL engine only uses 9 effective extra slots.

I also bought my second Jenner last night, and ran it through a few matches. I ended up swapping out the Medium lasers for Small lasers and replacing the SRM-4 with a couple SRM2-Streaks. I am not sure I like the streaks, as the lock time is longer than I typically have anything targeting if I end up circle strafing, but with the free re-arm up to 75%, ammo is essentially free.

One question: When I was unlocking my first skil in Pilotlab on the second Jenner it gave me the option to use General XP to train. I assume that is refering to GXP? That seems like a really bad idea, no?

[Coys1882]

Are you guys all playing on the same server?