Liberals pass bill

[Hakan]

JC was an awesome Prime Minister. He was totally hilarious. Remember when he went balls and choked that guy out while the RCMP security just stood and stared at the poor bas**rd?

Awesome.

[Resolute 14]

I think his highlight was embarrassing Canada by being the only major world Leader to fail to attend the funeral of the King of Jordan (iirc) because he would rather go golfing.

[Coelah]

People can call voters who go for the Liberals all the names they want to, but until the Conservatives moderate their social policy, they're never going to get into power. The majority of Canadians are a centrist group. They'll drift a little to the left and drift a little to the right, but they won't go all the way over to either side. It's the same reason why the NDP will never get into power.

Right now the conservatives are far too right wing on their social views. They have a good platform when it comes to economics, military and the enviroment, but that all gets drown out when they try and dictate their view of morality. Moderate their social policy and get a leader who isn't beholden to the evangelical movement and they could get into power easily.

[transplant99]

Right now the conservatives are far too right wing on their social views. They have a good platform when it comes to economics, military and the enviroment, but that all gets drown out when they try and dictate their view of morality. Moderate their social policy and get a leader who isn't beholden to the evangelical movement and they could get into power easily

You are going to have to explain to me then what part of the CPC ACTUAL platform isnt at least moderate.

I mean the actual, on paper, on their website, platform, and not the media spun, fear mongering, hidden-agenda, Fiberal BS that is used in retort.

[CaptainCrunch]

Don't forget Transplant that they want to overturn abortion rights . . . no wait. . . thats what the Liberal's say

Oh yeah and then there's thier homophobic anti gay platform . . . no no thats the Liberal's again, the Conservatives just want a free vote on gay marriage

And there's that whole destroy health care thing . . . wait thats Liberal exageration again to hide the fact that Martin destroyed the healthcare system through his budget cuts when he was finance minister

Hey Transplant, did you know that according to the Liberal's the Conservatives want to build aircraft carriers as well.

[Resolute 14]

I think the only social policy that the Conservatives are significantly different from the Liberals is gay marriage, and then, the only difference is that they are arguing about the definition of a word, not the level of rights gay people should receive.

The biggest problem for the Conservatives is the media. Outside of the corruption of the Liberals and the recent abandonment of fiscal responsibility, there really isnt a great deal that is significantly different between the two parties.

However, the two parties are portrayed in radically different lights by the media - ridiculously Liberal friendly media out east, and Conservative friendly in Alberta - and that is what people are making their judgements on.

[Natt]

It's odd... As I read these arguments, some are supported with information, facts, research, and history so that when I'm done reading, I feel more informed. Other arguments are supported merely by opinions that people try to pass on as 'true and real' so all I get when I'm done reading is ignorance.
There's nothing wrong with keeping an open mind about anything, it only improves you as a person.
Just some randomness on my part...

[Cube Inmate]

Originally posted by Coelah@Jun 26 2005, 11:36 AM
The majority of Canadians are a centrist group. They'll drift a little to the left and drift a little to the right, but they won't go all the way over to either side. It's the same reason why the NDP will never get into power.

Right now the conservatives are far too right wing on their social views. They have a good platform when it comes to economics, military and the enviroment, but that all gets drown out when they try and dictate their view of morality. Moderate their social policy and get a leader who isn't beholden to the evangelical movement and they could get into power easily.

This is crazy... the majority of Canadians are a centrist group? The media define the Liberals as "centrist" because they happen to be in the middle of things in terms of Canadian parties...because they're between the other two traditional parties.

It's not like there's some *absolute* political spectrum and they just happen to be right in the middle of it. The Liberals call themselves "centrist" because it appeals to Canadians' desire to be well balanced, to "not rock the boat," and be fair to everyone.

I kind of like that "buzzword" definition of Centrist, but they Liberals are NOT that. They've stolen our money, wasted our money, ignored the West, destroyed the military, and made Canada look like a minor player on the international scene. That's not fair to any of us...

[dustygoon]

Originally posted by MarchHare@Jun 24 2005, 02:28 PM

You seem to think that Canada's system of democracy is horribly broken. We use the exact same system as the UK and many other Commonwealth nations. If our system is broken, then theirs must be too, by your logic.

It is no dreamland in the UK. Someone from the UK might be able to give some more colour, but last I checked the UK is proposing radical changes to the house of lords.....an end to the Peerage garbage and having some elected.

I will say that the UK parliamentary system seems to function better in terms of getting laws read and passed....I think question period in Canada has deteriorated although I don't know why.