2012/2013 English Premier League thread

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

what are you referring to? the silva to real rumours? ive heard 30-40mil

was a joke because him and Ibrahimavic were sold for a combined 51.3m

[d_phaneuf]

I have no issue if they suspend Terry, I just don't see it, and not because of favoritism or anything like that. Just based on the evidence or lack thereof

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Locke

I dont know if it was mentioned, but Spurs have signed Adebayor.

I thought it was just the fee agreed but personal deals still need to be worked out, either way its probably official soon

Tevez has been heavily rumored to go to Milan to effectively replace Ibra too

opens up a spot for someone....

[Locke]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

I thought it was just the fee agreed but personal deals still need to be worked out, either way its probably official soon

Tevez has been heavily rumored to go to Milan to effectively replace Ibra too

opens up a spot for someone....

Not going to happen. From what I understand AC is effectively broke. They sold Ibra and Silva at a bit of a discount basically to get out of paying their ludicrous wages, I dont see them taking on Tevez who I think makes some pretty ludicrous money of his own.

[devo22]

Brazil giants Sao Paulo have insisted they are prepared to 'take the risk' of not selling highly-rated midfielder Lucas Moura this summer.

Fresh reports have suggested that Manchester United have tabled a bid in the region of £26million, but Sao Paulo have no intention of cashing in on the youngster.

"It is a risk not selling Lucas, but we are going to take it," president Juvenal Juvencio is quoted as saying in the Daily Mail.

http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/l...s-moura-071412

well, that's disappointing if true.

[604flames]

Arsenal wins the three-team Memorial Cup at Southampton today on points.

Southampton 0-1 Anderlecht
Arsenal 1-0 Anderlecht
Southampton 1-1 Arsenal (Saints win 5-4 on PK)

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by NBC

Apologies for posting in this thread.

Rangers newco to start life in Scottish Div 3.

As much as teams don't want to acknowledge or accept it, but they (everyone) needs Rangers to be a functioning, healthy club. The revenues that the Glasgow giant bring into the SPL are substantial and there is a considerable trickle-down effect to the rest of the clubs. This whole affair just strikes me as people 'baying for blood'. I don't like it.

What's not to like? When they went into liquidation they essentially ceased to exist as a registered member of the SFA.

The newly formed company/club can't automatically inherit a terminated registration and must rejoin the league. Why should they join at the top tier?

Technically speaking Rangers FC that was formed in 1872 has ceased to exist.

[d_phaneuf]

somewhat surprised they didnt consider a bid to join the english lower leagues

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Locke

Arsenal's kit looks like they're fielding an army of homosexual hamburglers.

Or it looks like a promo poster for an upscale strip club grand opening.

Called Gunnerz

[NBC]

Originally Posted by Bagor

What's not to like? When they went into liquidation they essentially ceased to exist as a registered member of the SFA.

The newly formed company/club can't automatically inherit a terminated registration and must rejoin the league. Why should they join at the top tier?

Technically speaking Rangers FC that was formed in 1872 has ceased to exist.

This:

Ahead of Friday's SFL meeting, the SFA and SPL had promised reorganisation of the leagues and redistribution of income in return for Rangers being placed in Division One. The chief executives of both those governing bodies had warned of dire financial consequences should Rangers be placed in the bottom tier.

SPL clubs will also be looking to discover further details of the predicted commercial losses resulting from the loss of Rangers.

Contracts reportedly have an exit or renegotiation clause should either Celtic or Rangers be absent and the television deals. Sky and ESPN were due to sign an £80m five-year deal this summer, although their existing £13m annual contract has a year left to run. SPL chief executive Neil Doncaster told SFL clubs that a total of £18.7m would be lost to the SPL if the Third Division option was taken, all but £1m from broadcasting deals.

Doncaster has apparently valued TV revenue at just £3m if the Rangers newco was made to start in the Third Division, but Sky Sports has maintained its silence while ESPN has said it wants "to have a continued relationship with Scottish football".

[d_phaneuf]

French media saying Spurs and Lloris have agreed on personal terms but OL's asking price is a bit too high at the moment

[Locke]

Friedel not cutting it anymore?

[d_phaneuf]

Friedel was great last year but he's 41

Lloris is widely thought of as world class and he's 25

I would have thought they were planning to wait a year longer to get someone new but if/when someone like Lloris becomes available you have to make it happen

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by NBC

This:

I'm well aware of all that but it changes nothing in that the matter was dealt with fairly.

I don't agree with all this baying for blood that you speak off.

[d_phaneuf]

Bendtner looks pleased to be back at Arsenal for training

[DeanOMac]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

French media saying Spurs and Lloris have agreed on personal terms but OL's asking price is a bit too high at the moment

I never did get this. I have read countless times about players agreeing personal terms prior to a transfer. How does a club agree personal terms with a player if they have not had a fee accepted? Is that not tampering?

This is not anti-Tottenham, I am talking in a general sense here.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by DeanOMac

I never did get this. I have read countless times about players agreeing personal terms prior to a transfer. How does a club agree personal terms with a player if they have not had a fee accepted? Is that not tampering?

This is not anti-Tottenham, I am talking in a general sense here.

Its two separate negotiations. Often the owning club will allow the buyer to negotiate personal terms to see if a deal can be done. If a club cant agree on personal terms then theres no sense negotiating a transfer fee anyways, and vice versa.

For instance, and nothing against United in this situation, but didnt they agree a fee with Inter for Wesley Sneijder but it fell apart on personal terms? He wanted a staggering amount of cash and United just said no.

I may be totally wrong too...

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Locke

Its two separate negotiations. Often the owning club will allow the buyer to negotiate personal terms to see if a deal can be done. If a club cant agree on personal terms then theres no sense negotiating a transfer fee anyways, and vice versa.

For instance, and nothing against United in this situation, but didnt they agree a fee with Inter for Wesley Sneijder but it fell apart on personal terms? He wanted a staggering amount of cash and United just said no.

I may be totally wrong too...

Yeah, I heard that too. Basically, with Englands higher taxation compared to Italy, they would've been looking at north of £220,000. Higher than Rooney. There were talks he'd take a paycut... Little that did.

[d_phaneuf]

Reports were that he wanted 250k per week

Usually a player and his agent will be brought in officially when a bid is made and the team is considering it, they want to see if it's worth it to continue negotiating so they can be going on at the same time

it doesn't happen all the time but it's a lot more common than in sports over here

[Locke]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Yeah, I heard that too. Basically, with Englands higher taxation compared to Italy, they would've been looking at north of £220,000. Higher than Rooney. There were talks he'd take a paycut... Little that did.

I read that it was closer to £300/week and United just hung up the phone.

Cant blame them on that one. Thats insane cake and it was higher than Rooney's wages.