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Old 04-07-2012, 02:26 PM   #101
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I'd love to see Coco Cordero close this one out.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:28 PM   #102
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This might be a first, people complaining about switching over to the beginning of a Flames game

That is the cardinal sin though, a network cannot leave a live event.
I can't speak for myself because I am not a Flames fan (although I live in the city), but I think it just speaks volumes for those guys who have had it with their hockey team and are -finally- excited about Blue Jays baseball again after years of "having had it" with this ballclub. We are talking about 19 years of irrelevant baseball compared to three years of no playoffs action here in Calgary. I think the whole country will be celebrating if we nab one of those wildcard spots in the AL. I really do. It's a proven fact that the longer the drought is = bigger celebration.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:31 PM   #103
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Johnson singles to center and Rasmus scores. It's now 7-3 Jays.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:32 PM   #104
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Effin Sportsnet. Why must they do EVERYTHING wrong! I'm not subscribed to SN Pacific. Can't watch the game boozos!

Should've just stuck with SN Flames for Flames.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:35 PM   #105
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You make the game sound robotic.. like pitchers have no feelings or nerves or momentum. Or at home or away. The closer at home gets a boost from the crowd. The closer on the road get nervous from the crowd. They are human. If this wasn't the case, why is there a crowd at all?

Just for fun you and I will have an experiment throughout the season.

Jays bullpen when the Jays are behind or when the game is tied.
At the end of the 11th right now.
13 IP - 0 runs

Jays bullpen when the Jays have the lead.
2 IP - 1 run
Santos fastball doesn't get any faster because the crowd cheers loud or boos. Yes, they are human and not robots. But the difference you talked about equates to a fraction of the overall statistics.

I'm not saying homefield advantage and the road cannot have an effect on a player (http://sabermetricresearch.blogspot....advantage.html) it's incredibly tough to evaluate on a team level but not so much pitcher to pitcher.

The little competition makes no sense and if you'd read the Grantland article you could see where I'm coming from. There's more Jays fans in Cleveland today, there's no pressure. Over a 162 games those little changes in emotion on how loud the crowd is cheering and where you're pitching make such a little statistical imprint on. This is a very similar argument to the myth about Jack Morris going to the Hall of Fame because he pitched to the score, and that's why he had below average HOF numbers.

This is a road game for the BlueJays under statistics but Jays fans outnumber Indians fans in Cleveland. I'm not against intangibles and believe that everything can be found in a statical but causal fans and baseball broadcasters have a horrible way of overrating and overusing them.

I suggest reading the Grantland article and finding out the best statistic to measure relievers is SD/MD, Shutdowns vs Meltdowns.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:36 PM   #106
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on a side note, god I love that MLB 12 the show commercial featuring a "hypothetical" scenario in which the Chicago Cubs shed the label of baseball's "loveable losers" to win the world series.

Bottom 12th and I finally get what I wished for...Coco Cordero is pitching!
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:37 PM   #107
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The indians had 2 hits before that single...both home runs...not the best showing.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:39 PM   #108
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people are still debating Santos' "blown save?" Guys, he simply blew it because he decided to stick throwing his fastballs rather than his slider. I'm not a scout, but from what I've been reading so far, Santos' slider is NASTY. Even AL Easts opponents have claim to that fact. Here's hoping that we'll actually get to witness that KO pitch in his next outing.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:41 PM   #109
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...and now everything's a hit...
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:42 PM   #110
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yeesh, just get a GB for crying out loud.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:42 PM   #111
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oh man...hafner with an rbi single...7-4 jays. Indians with 1out, 2man on base.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:44 PM   #112
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Trying to be too fine in this inning, coming in with a four-run lead at that....
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:45 PM   #113
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I love Brett Lawrie. #gamechanger
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:46 PM   #114
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here we go folks...last out.

and...

the Blue Jays win 7-4! Great "grind it out" win for the Jays! Brett Lawrie with 3 big hits and a great diving catch to help out the d on the bottom 12th!
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There. Done. It's a W.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:49 PM   #116
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solid w
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:50 PM   #117
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Put $4 down on the Jays to win by 3 runs on my bodog account. Needless to say I'm happy with the $30 I just won. My account just keeps getting bigger and bigger.


Now all I need is a Ducks win.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:51 PM   #118
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Nice to start 2-0. Rasmus gets on base twice, Bullpen again was very strong minus one pitch by Santos.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:54 PM   #119
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hey guys, i'm starting to notice a trend here....Blue Jays season series off-topic threads: where Canucks and Flames fans finally agree on something!
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Solid road win - again, I am not a Morrow fan, but I like how he just attacked the strike zone all day, he does that 35 times this year, he will win 18 games.

Wait til the rest of this lineup wakes up, going to be a fun group to watch everyday.
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