It's not like he's out there selling the hot dogs himself. He signs checks to people, and in return those people make him an extra 10 million dollars.
Only if they sell. Mayweather has the ability to earn more in that situation, but he's also taking on enhanced risks, he's putting out money to other people regardless of what comes back in. If the fight doesn't sell that money is gone.
^^ under most circumstances I would agree however the 24/7 brought quite a bit of interest in!
Mayweather is a business person and knew some extra steps would need to be taken to bring in typical sales.
Anyone who watched the weight in would be hard pressed not to wanna watch the fight. + they had that red headed mexican who was fighting in LA on the card which would have brought in quite a bit of sales alone.
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Only if they sell. Mayweather has the ability to earn more in that situation, but he's also taking on enhanced risks, he's putting out money to other people regardless of what comes back in. If the fight doesn't sell that money is gone.
But it does sell, which is why he's making stupid money.
Name 5 other technical defensive fighters in boxing right now that you would pay money to watch?
Pretty hard eh? why? because it's boring. The last true technical specialist was Pernell Whitaker. Boring as hell to watch too. Ask 1000 boxing experts if they would watch Pernell Whitaker or Julio Cesar Chavez? i bet 999 of them say Chavez.
I don't agree with this for 1 reason, and that is the boxing experts love to see Mayweather fight. You always hear how the experts love to watch Mayweather fight since he is just so quick and smooth.
The boxing experts like watching the footwork, speed, and technique of Mayweather and enjoy watching him fight. You always hear boxing experts bash fighters when they just go out their and punch, the experts like the strategy and technique.
If you said poll 1000 fans I would agree with you. The casual boxing fan wants to see the aggressive, offensive fighter and not the defensive tactician. This is why the fighters who go out and just punch are the fan favorites.
However it is for that reason that Mayweather...
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I'll have to admit, Mayweather is a pretty smart guy. He knows a lot of people pay money, wanting to see him knocked out. The more he hypes up his own record, the more people want to see it. He plays up the villian even more to fuel people's hatred of him. That's all just money in his pocket. People want to see him lose. And that's why he's not going to risk a fight with Pacquiao. I honestly think it's 50/50 on who wins, but why would Floyd risk it? The gravy train pretty much stops if he loses.
Since he is a "boring" fighter in the eye of the casual fan, Floyd needed to create other reasons for people to watch him fight and he has effectively done that by making himself such a controversial figure.
Some people love him due to his brash and cocky attitude and will watch for that. Others hate him and want to see him get k.o.'d more then anything in the world.
Like The Yen Man said it is this polarizing figure that has allowed him to do 1.4 million buys and make 40 million dollars per fight.
Ducking Mayweather is all part of this. The longer he puts off the fight the more people get on him and turn him into a villain. The more hated he is, the more people want him to get KO'd and the more money gets put up for his fights.
He will eventually fight Pacquiao since the money he will make is just too large, but he wants to time it right so that he makes as much money as possible.
I think the time might be now since he is boarding on crossing the line on his hatred where people just wont care anymore, and I dont think people can hate him anymore then they do now after what transpired on the weekend.
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But it does sell, which is why he's making stupid money.
Not if he continues to fight sieves like Ortiz. He couldn't find a bigger quitter in sports.
I couldn't believe he gave the hang loose sign when Merchant started to interview him. Seriously dude? you just got knocked the F out and you are treating it like spring break. Pathetic.
I don't agree with this for 1 reason, and that is the boxing experts love to see Mayweather fight. You always hear how the experts love to watch Mayweather fight since he is just so quick and smooth.
The boxing experts like watching the footwork, speed, and technique of Mayweather and enjoy watching him fight. You always hear boxing experts bash fighters when they just go out their and punch, the experts like the strategy and technique.
If you said poll 1000 fans I would agree with you. The casual boxing fan wants to see the aggressive, offensive fighter and not the defensive tactician. This is why the fighters who go out and just punch are the fan favorites.
Now this is all true except the bit about 999 fans. I would rather watch mayweather duck, dodge and pot shot than watch a big russian monster throw out the jab. and i know we're talking about chavez not klitchko, but the point i'm trying to make is that just because mayweather doesn't slug doesn't mean he doesn't shine. That's what the fans respond to, that shine. And his talent is something to behold and IMO captivates even most casual fans.
I don't agree with this for 1 reason, and that is the boxing experts love to see Mayweather fight. You always hear how the experts love to watch Mayweather fight since he is just so quick and smooth.
The boxing experts like watching the footwork, speed, and technique of Mayweather and enjoy watching him fight. You always hear boxing experts bash fighters when they just go out their and punch, the experts like the strategy and technique.
If you said poll 1000 fans I would agree with you. The casual boxing fan wants to see the aggressive, offensive fighter and not the defensive tactician. This is why the fighters who go out and just punch are the fan favorites.
However it is for that reason that Mayweather...
Since he is a "boring" fighter in the eye of the casual fan, Floyd needed to create other reasons for people to watch him fight and he has effectively done that by making himself such a controversial figure.
Some people love him due to his brash and cocky attitude and will watch for that. Others hate him and want to see him get k.o.'d more then anything in the world.
Like The Yen Man said it is this polarizing figure that has allowed him to do 1.4 million buys and make 40 million dollars per fight.
Ducking Mayweather is all part of this. The longer he puts off the fight the more people get on him and turn him into a villain. The more hated he is, the more people want him to get KO'd and the more money gets put up for his fights.
He will eventually fight Pacquiao since the money he will make is just too large, but he wants to time it right so that he makes as much money as possible.
I think the time might be now since he is boarding on crossing the line on his hatred where people just wont care anymore, and I dont think people can hate him anymore then they do now after what transpired on the weekend.
I think part of the reason he is "waiting for the right timing" is that he knows there is a very real possibility he will lose that fight. He losing a large part of the mistique of his selling point if he is no longer undefeated.
Assuming the fight is epic, he could, however, still pull off a profit from a loss. He'd need to turn the conflict into a Ward/Gatti type of deal, with multiple anticipated fights. There's no guarantee that would happen though.
I was responding to a point that boxing was more corrupt than MMA to which I replied:
Fair enough, my point was only that I don't think it's quite as bad simply because it hasn't had the time to get as bad. It's in the infancy of its corruption if you will.
^^ under most circumstances I would agree however the 24/7 brought quite a bit of interest in!
Mayweather is a business person and knew some extra steps would need to be taken to bring in typical sales.
Anyone who watched the weight in would be hard pressed not to wanna watch the fight. + they had that red headed mexican who was fighting in LA on the card which would have brought in quite a bit of sales alone.
I think with the 24/7, it helped the buy rate crack 1M.
I know he consistently sells 1M+, but I think people are getting an indifferent opinion of him and his fights. People just don't care like they care about Pacman's fights
I don't agree with this for 1 reason, and that is the boxing experts love to see Mayweather fight. You always hear how the experts love to watch Mayweather fight since he is just so quick and smooth.
The boxing experts like watching the footwork, speed, and technique of Mayweather and enjoy watching him fight. You always hear boxing experts bash fighters when they just go out their and punch, the experts like the strategy and technique.
If you said poll 1000 fans I would agree with you. The casual boxing fan wants to see the aggressive, offensive fighter and not the defensive tactician. This is why the fighters who go out and just punch are the fan favorites.
However it is for that reason that Mayweather...
Who are these 'boxing experts' you speak of? Lampley, Steward, Kellerman and Merchant has always criticized him for running away and not engaging. You can't get more of a boxing expert than Emmanuel Steward.
If Pacquiao wins against Marquez in November, there really isn't anyone left to fight for either of these guys. I really really hope Pacquaio Mayweather happens soon, as the clock seems to be ticking for both fighters. They're both in their thirties, and who knows. Pacquiao might quit a few years from now and concentrate full time as a politician. It'd really be a shame for boxing if this fight doesn't happen.
Who are these 'boxing experts' you speak of? Lampley, Steward, Kellerman and Merchant has always criticized him for running away and not engaging. You can't get more of a boxing expert than Emmanuel Steward.
Lol, I think Kellerman hates Mayweather even more than Merchant. But I don't agree with Steward. The guy has always been pretty pro Mayweather. And Lamps just has a mancrush on Pacquiao.
Now this is all true except the bit about 999 fans. I would rather watch mayweather duck, dodge and pot shot than watch a big russian monster throw out the jab. and i know we're talking about chavez not klitchko, but the point i'm trying to make is that just because mayweather doesn't slug doesn't mean he doesn't shine. That's what the fans respond to, that shine. And his talent is something to behold and IMO captivates even most casual fans.
Klitschkos? hahahaha thats a terrible example. They don't slug!!! they jab at range and pound the crap out of you with their steelhammer right hands. Actually the 2 of them and Lennox Lewis ruined the heavyweight division. I love Lennox since he is canadian and all but his fights for the most part were super boring because of his jabs.
Holyfield and Tyson slugged.
I would watch Pacquiao or Cotto or Maidana, or Sergio Martinez or any of the super middleweights over Mayweather or the Klitschkos.
Lol, I think Kellerman hates Mayweather even more than Merchant. But I don't agree with Steward. The guy has always been pretty pro Mayweather. And Lamps just has a mancrush on Pacquiao.
Steward pro-mayweather? maybe you should have listened to him on the weekend.
Who doesn't have a man crush on Pacquiao. Even Mexican fights fans have a crush on him even though he is destroying all their country men.
If Pacquiao wins against Marquez in November, there really isn't anyone left to fight for either of these guys. I really really hope Pacquaio Mayweather happens soon, as the clock seems to be ticking for both fighters. They're both in their thirties, and who knows. Pacquiao might quit a few years from now and concentrate full time as a politician. It'd really be a shame for boxing if this fight doesn't happen.
Amir Khan could beat Mayweather. good luck trying to get Floyd to fight him though. If Chicken Floyd wouldn't fight Cotto 3 years ago there is no way he would fight Khan.
Amir Khan could beat Mayweather. good luck trying to get Floyd to fight him though. If Chicken Floyd wouldn't fight Cotto 3 years ago there is no way he would fight Khan.
I dunno, I like Khan, but that fight he had with Maidana didn't really instill any confidence in me. The guy still has a weak chin IMO, and I think Mayweather is still on another level compared to him.
As to who doesn't have a man crush on Manny, I guess that's true. Especially if he continues belting out tunes like these:
Assuming the fight is epic, he could, however, still pull off a profit from a loss. He'd need to turn the conflict into a Ward/Gatti type of deal, with multiple anticipated fights. There's no guarantee that would happen though.
Yeah I think the other issue Mayweather has with fighting Pacquiao is that if he loses he will most likely get knocked out, and if he wins it will be a decision.
In situations like that even if he wins people will criticize him for not knocking out Pacquiao and most likely for "Not engaging" and "running away" as Bertuzzied had stated.
It will happen, and once it does we will probably see two fights because the loser will want a rematch.
I am unfortunately at a disadvantage when it comes to the fans because they don't know the rules and I have to try and explain myself. I can educate your fans that are listening. I have to follow the rules according to the unified rules of USA Boxing. We have unified rules and everybody complies to them especially in a championship fight. I just hope the fans listen That's why I have a website to try to educate the fans in reference to the duties of a referee.
