Erixon or Brodie?

[CofR]

Just a heads up, Brodie is calling and will be on Fan 960 at 2:45 this afternoon.

[albertGQ]

Compensation for a 1st rounder is the same number pick but in the second round. Since Wheeler was the 5th pick in round one, the Yotes got the 5th pick in round two for compensation.
So the Flames will get the 13th pick in 2011 second round if we can't sign Erixon

And other teams can negotiate with him and his agent provided the Flames give them the right.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

Compensation for a 1st rounder is the same number pick but in the second round. Since Wheeler was the 5th pick in round one, the Yotes got the 5th pick in round two for compensation.
So the Flames will get the 13th pick in 2011 second round if we can't sign Erixon

And other teams can negotiate with him and his agent provided the Flames give them the right.

Wasn't Erixon picked at 24?
Meaning we would pick at 54?

[CofR]

Some highlights of the Brodie interview:
- Says he began to lose confidence in himself early when Playfair got on him but learned to not take it personally, and that the coach was trying to help him.
- He grew up a lot this season, by being on his own and learned a lot about what it takes to be a pro.
- He was happy with his point production, but his main focus was to be a defenceman and to focus on work in his own end.
- is planning on approaching this offseason the same as last year, perhaps add a bit more weight.
- There isn't much more pressure on him to make the team this season, says that if it doesn't happen he knows what he needs to work on.
- I believe he said that he doesn't like to see Vancouver win, but they are playing well (I couldn't really make out what he said)

He was very well spoken, and very polite. I missed the first part, but I think I got most of it... I'm sure it will be up in the audio on demand section soon.

[BigBrodieFan]

Originally Posted by CofR

Some highlights of the Brodie interview:
- Says he began to lose confidence in himself early when Playfair got on him but learned to not take it personally, and that the coach was trying to help him.
- He grew up a lot this season, by being on his own and learned a lot about what it takes to be a pro.
- He was happy with his point production, but his main focus was to be a defenceman and to focus on work in his own end.
- is planning on approaching this offseason the same as last year, perhaps add a bit more weight.
- There isn't much more pressure on him to make the team this season, says that if it doesn't happen he knows what he needs to work on.
- I believe he said that he doesn't like to see Vancouver win, but they are playing well (I couldn't really make out what he said)

He was very well spoken, and very polite. I missed the first part, but I think I got most of it... I'm sure it will be up in the audio on demand section soon.

I got to listen to the second part too. He is the most polite, humble, sweet kid. Thanks CofR

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

Wasn't Erixon picked at 24?
Meaning we would pick at 54?

Actually, I beleive he was picked 23rd?
So we'll get the 23rd pick in the second round

But I would be shocked if we didn't sign him. No other team can offer more than we can. If we don't sign him, its a case of him not wanting to play in Calgary like Wheeler didn't want to play in Phoenix

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Superfraggle

I think you guys are undervaluing top 10 draft picks here. And the new team isn't allowed to negotiate with Erixon's agent before they acquire his rights. Unless you're suggesting that the Flames have known for a while that they weren't going to sign Erixon and gave his agent permission to talk to other teams, while pretending to fans that Feaster expects to sign him themselves. Farfetched.

The Flames could give permission for Erixon's agent to talk to teams before a trade.

But all this talk is pointless as I believe he will be signed by Calgary.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

Actually, I beleive he was picked 23rd?
So we'll get the 23rd pick in the second round

But I would be shocked if we didn't sign him. No other team can offer more than we can. If we don't sign him, its a case of him not wanting to play in Calgary like Wheeler didn't want to play in Phoenix

Erixon was picked 23rd but that was NJ's first. We traded down to add the third needed to get Bouw's rights if I am not mistaken? I think we had the 20th pick in the 09 draft.

[kirant]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Erixon was picked 23rd but that was NJ's first. We traded down to add the third needed to get Bouw's rights if I am not mistaken? I think we had the 20th pick in the 09 draft.

Yup. 3rd and Leopold's rights for Bouwmeester's rights.

[Superfraggle]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

The Flames could give permission for Erixon's agent to talk to teams before a trade.

But all this talk is pointless as I believe he will be signed by Calgary.

I said that: "I think you guys are undervaluing top 10 draft picks here. And the new team isn't allowed to negotiate with Erixon's agent before they acquire his rights. Unless you're suggesting that the Flames have known for a while that they weren't going to sign Erixon and gave his agent permission to talk to other teams, while pretending to fans that Feaster expects to sign him themselves. Farfetched."

[flamesaresmokin]

This is pretty poor on the flames part to let it come down to this. Its not hard to deal with entry level contracts anymore. If i'm not mistaken isn't the only thing to hang this up potentially bonus amounts?

[Calgaryborn]

Do the Flame's have to shed a contract before they can add Erixon's?

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Do the Flame's have to shed a contract before they can add Erixon's?

No he'll be on a two way contract and the way I understand it, only one way contracts count against the cap during the off season.

The only thing I can see the contract being held up for is that Erixon wants big bonus money but the Flames will want the bonus money low so they can fit him in under the big club's cap. If his bonus is too high, than they will have to send him to Abbotsford. If Feaster explains this in the negotiations, Erixon could balk as he may want the bigger money and a spot on an NHL team even if it isn't the Flames.

[Johnny Rotten]

Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin

This is pretty poor on the flames part to let it come down to this. Its not hard to deal with entry level contracts anymore. If i'm not mistaken isn't the only thing to hang this up potentially bonus amounts?

On the surface, I'd have to agree. I can't figure out what else could be going on. The contract shouldn't be that complicated, but what else could be holding it up?

1) The player doesn't want to sign here, which as Rob Kerr said today, would be strange considering that Erixon came to the rookie camp, etc.

2) Could there be a trade in the works?

3) The Flames are trying create a level of suspense by announcing his signing at the latest possible moment.

4) Something that I can't think of and hasn't been mentioned here.

[Superfraggle]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

No he'll be on a two way contract and the way I understand it, only one way contracts count against the cap during the off season.

The only thing I can see the contract being held up for is that Erixon wants big bonus money but the Flames will want the bonus money low so they can fit him in under the big club's cap. If his bonus is too high, than they will have to send him to Abbotsford. If Feaster explains this in the negotiations, Erixon could balk as he may want the bigger money and a spot on an NHL team even if it isn't the Flames.

I'm guessing he meant the limit of number of contracts a team can have, not the salary cap.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Superfraggle

I'm guessing he meant the limit of number of contracts a team can have, not the salary cap.

Yes. I thought I heard the limit was 50 contracts in all and we had that many contracts.

[Beerfest]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Yes. I thought I heard the limit was 50 contracts in all and we had that many contracts.

The Flames dont have that many contracts signed considering UFA's and RFA's.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Superfraggle

I'm guessing he meant the limit of number of contracts a team can have, not the salary cap.

I'm thinking he would, for the moment be the same as Howse, signed to a pro contract but not officially turned pro, so not counting against the 50 man Reserve List yet.

[Freeway]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I'm thinking he would, for the moment be the same as Howse, signed to a pro contract but not officially turned pro, so not counting against the 50 man Reserve List yet.

Any contract Erixon signs wouldn't come into effect until July 1, which is when the "50 contracts" rule seems to be in effect. The salary cap is a whole other kettle of fish.

[Lunatik]

Originally Posted by Johnny Rotten

On the surface, I'd have to agree. I can't figure out what else could be going on. The contract shouldn't be that complicated, but what else could be holding it up?

1) The player doesn't want to sign here, which as Rob Kerr said today, would be strange considering that Erixon came to the rookie camp, etc.

2) Could there be a trade in the works?

3) The Flames are trying create a level of suspense by announcing his signing at the latest possible moment.

4) Something that I can't think of and hasn't been mentioned here.

5) he is already signed and they want to announce all the signings of draft picks at the same time if they are also signing Bennett and Bjorklund