06-19-2011, 02:54 PM
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Took an arrow to the knee
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Toronto
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Will they change the name to "The Killings?"
Honestly, I wish it were over tonight.
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06-19-2011, 10:02 PM
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#103
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Not as exciting of an episode as last week, even with the ending. I do wish that they tied the story line up this season, but the Richmond story was just a little too neat of a package, and any other scenario just wouldn't have had enough time to be explained in one episode. There's probably a series of people at play now, not just one (ie, the campaign manager who fed him the story of him being out and wet is probably involved too).
Btw, what a crappy selfish sack of crap that mom was all season. Your daughter died and instead of making sure your other kids are taken care of, all you can focus on is yourself and bail? Boohoo you have regrets.... welcome to the club, now get over it.
Last edited by Table 5; 06-19-2011 at 10:05 PM.
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06-19-2011, 10:44 PM
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#104
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Fffffuuuuuuuuuuu!
Ffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu!
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But living an honest life - for that you need the truth. That's the other thing I learned that day, that the truth, however shocking or uncomfortable, leads to liberation and dignity. -Ricky Gervais
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06-19-2011, 10:52 PM
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#105
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
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I told myself before the start of the episode that if the case wasn't all wrapped by episode's end, I wasn't going to watch next season. Now, I'm not happy with the ending, but I'm not sure how I don't watch at least the beginning of next season. That was a pretty good cliffhanger. I don't wanna get into a debate on whether or not cliffhangers are good or bad. To me, they have a place and I think it works in a show like this.
In a way, I'm happy they ended it like this because it gives me reason to watch next season and in a way I'm pissed. I invested 13 hours on this show, and now I have to wait a year to reach any kind of conclusion?? That sucks huge balls.
The countdown to Breaking Bad begins......27 days and counting.
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06-19-2011, 11:17 PM
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#106
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saw a review tonight that said it hoped the Killing being renewed was a red herring
what a terrible finale, I understand cliff hangers and when done well they can create excitement for next season and still act as a good finish (Breaking Bad last year as an example, didn't realize it was only 27 days, fantastic news)
but this was just annoying, the tag line for the show was basically who killed the girl, disingenuous of the show to not answer that question
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06-20-2011, 09:16 AM
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#107
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I actually thought the episode was really good, but I was also hoping that there wouldn't be such a cliffhanger for next season. I could have handled Linden coming back next year for a new case, but I am not really a fan of this. The male detective being such an obvious dirtbag now doesn't sit well with me at all.
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But living an honest life - for that you need the truth. That's the other thing I learned that day, that the truth, however shocking or uncomfortable, leads to liberation and dignity. -Ricky Gervais
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06-20-2011, 10:11 AM
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#108
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Man, I thought I was disappointed, then I read some reviews. I don't know if I've ever read such anger in tv reviews before...
http://www.aoltv.com/2011/06/19/the-...-finale-recap/
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-al...-season-finale
Here's an interview with showrunner Veena Sud: http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-al...-season-finale
It reminds me of an interview I read with the creator of Grey's Anatomy (another show set in Seattle) a couple of years ago where she basically answered any criticism of the ridiculous plot twists that the show was taking by saying (paraphrasing) "this is the show I want to make; this is the show the network wants me to make; and as long as I'm running the show, this will be the show we make". It was after reading that, that I decided it wasn't the show I wanted to watch, and it seemingly never would be, so I stopped watching it.
Right now, I feel the same way about The Killing. We'll see how I feel next spring.
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06-20-2011, 10:47 AM
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#109
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I started watching it last night, and about 10 minutes in decided I just didn't want to. It seems from what I've heard that I made a wise decision. I had intended to watch it later, but now I think I'll just skip it altogether.
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06-20-2011, 10:54 AM
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#110
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Philtopia
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Its a pretty decent show but you can't just jump in half way and expect to understand what's going on. There is a lot of back story that has happened and that is also yet to happen.
Keep in mind barely 14 days has gone by at this point (end of season 1). It will clearly wrap up next season as you can only do so much with a show about an unsolved murder. Anything on AMC is still 100x better then network television so i'm pretty confident they will work everything out in a well directed manner.
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06-20-2011, 11:09 AM
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#111
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The thing that bothers me the most is the lack of closure in almost all the major plot points. You see Ahmed is still alive, great. But that's pretty much it. It's tough to watch an entire series and have it finish with "Haha! See you next year, suckers!" Typically I like to have the current plot finished by the end, and have a new one start.
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06-20-2011, 11:29 AM
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#112
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From the first article that getbak posted:
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Let me be clear about the fact that I don't hold the actors responsible for this steaming pile of nonsense. I look at the work Brent Sexton did in the scene with Bennet's wife and I regret, once again, that the show didn't give these excellent actors sufficient scope for their skills on a consistent basis.
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You mean the wife of the guy who was beaten to a pulp didn't know the identity of his attacker? Come on.
The article also talked about Linden going to visit Richmond alone, after she was sure he was the murderer. As if that would ever happen. Way too many leaps being taken in this show.
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But living an honest life - for that you need the truth. That's the other thing I learned that day, that the truth, however shocking or uncomfortable, leads to liberation and dignity. -Ricky Gervais
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06-20-2011, 12:01 PM
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#113
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oilers_fan
You mean the wife of the guy who was beaten to a pulp didn't know the identity of his attacker? Come on.
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Yeah, a little hard to believe, considering that outside of Stan attacking her husband, he was also the father of the girl plastered all over the news/media. You'd think she'd pay a little bit of attention to that story considering her husband was a major suspect. Otherwise that's gotta be one sheltered wife.
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06-20-2011, 02:06 PM
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#114
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Took an arrow to the knee
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Toronto
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They went the more personal, emotional route with the finale, and there's nothing wrong with that if done well (it's why I loved the LOST ending so much), but I am kind of pissed there was no closure about Rosie's killer, and the way they supposedly quashed the suspicions about Holder's bad dealings earlier in the show, only to say AHA! we lied!
I think the red herring after red herring aspect of the show really weakens it. I didn't believe it was Richmond just because I expected a red herring, and it seems that was probably the case (though, I don't know why he'd be all wet).
I'll watch next season, though, because I don't think the show's THAT bad, it just has to improve on some aspects. It has the potential to be quite good. It just really needs to get rid of that red herring crap, because if it doesn't, there's little point of watching the entirety of next season until the last episode, when they may reveal something.
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06-20-2011, 02:08 PM
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Crushed
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: The Sc'ank
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This is why I asked before the show aired whether it was certain they were revealing the killer! Dammit. It became clear fairly quickly they weren't going that route, unfortunately.
The episode seemed rather anticlimactic, until the final minutes. Even though, it seemed to be a good cliffhanger ending, I would much rather they given us some concrete details or showed us what happened that night in its entirety thus revealing the killer.
The stuff with the blond chick seemed weird. She apparently had this information that he had left in the middle of the night and came home soaking wet and she thought it best to hide this information and provide him with an alibi? Was she so in love with him that she wanted to protect him or something? She seems like a fairly level headed woman so why keep that to herself? That whole thing seemed fishy.
I also called bunk on the pregger wife not recognizing the dad. How would she not know what the guy who beat her husband nearly to death looked like, especially since he turned himself in for it and because he was the father of the girl killed? It made no sense to me.
Not sure what to think of Holder or who he may have been talking to or what his end game is.
I think overall, they've done a good job at showing just how destructive this murder has been. The stuff with the mother is sad, you can't help but feel for her having lost her daughter in such a fashion, but at the same time, it's frustrating to see her mourn the loss of one child, while shutting out her remaining children. I imagine though that you lose a child like this, you aren't thinking clearly. Hopefully, she gets herself together and gets back to her kids.
I will be watching next season, but they better give us something early on. I am hanging in there with the investigation, but admittedly, the thread is getting thinner. They need to give their audience something or people will just stop caring entirely. It's already happened with some. I realize it's still supposed to be early on in the investigation, but the audience won't watch two full seasons of teasers.
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06-20-2011, 02:20 PM
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#116
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Took an arrow to the knee
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Toronto
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I also want to add that Gwen saying Richmond was all wet when he came back at dawn probably means nothing considering it rains every freakin' day in the Killing.
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06-20-2011, 02:46 PM
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#117
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Did the hooker sayin it was Richmond mean anything? Does he still pick up hookers? And what's with the Orpheus handle? He still seems shady. Wasn't all that surprised when he was being arrested.
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But living an honest life - for that you need the truth. That's the other thing I learned that day, that the truth, however shocking or uncomfortable, leads to liberation and dignity. -Ricky Gervais
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06-20-2011, 02:58 PM
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#118
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Redundant Minister of Redundancy
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Montreal
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Richmond still could have done it. That shady business with the fake photo could have been orchestrated by the current mayor because he wanted to ensure that Richmond was arrested before the election, and Holder went along with it because he knew that Richmond would get away with it if they didn't get more evidence.
It would be disappointing if Richmond was a yet another red herring. Like others, I was getting pretty tired of them.
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06-22-2011, 04:48 PM
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#120
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What an absolute garbage show. AMC really screwed us on this one.
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