01-08-2020, 06:50 PM
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#101
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Calgary
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Yesss next jersey!
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01-08-2020, 06:56 PM
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#102
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayo
I like it - I think it will be a value contract for a solid young D man
Let's put the confetti away though - this isn't a lock - let's (hopefully) celebrate heading into year 3 or 4
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The time for confetti is now. This is a good deal today, and probably an unequivocal steal within two years.
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01-08-2020, 06:59 PM
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#103
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
I was worried they missed their chance for a contract like this in the off season with how he's played this year..
Great signing. He's good on the ice, but a pretty huge part of the dressing room too from all reports
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It was telling to me when he was the first guy they had pick the music for practice.
Seems like a great room guy.
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01-08-2020, 06:59 PM
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#104
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Psytic
I like it. I wouldn't mind if a Brodie deal was coming down the pipe to.
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Brodie has been playing really well, for some time now.
I would be much more open to Hamonic being moved.
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01-08-2020, 07:00 PM
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#105
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12
I look forward to more of this type of stuff from Ras too.
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Swedes seem so nice and emotionless usually but both Backs and Rasmus seem to have a whole lot of hate for the Canucks and Oilers.
Love it.
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01-08-2020, 07:02 PM
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#106
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Franchise Player
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I look forward to seeing the Oilers pay Nurse two million more than Andersson. For my money, he's a superior defenceman (one year younger as well).
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01-08-2020, 07:04 PM
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#107
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Franchise Player
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To be honest, if I’d been forced to predict his AAV for a 6 year deal, I would have been closer to 4 but I probably under appreciated the leverage RFA’s seem to have now.
In the last 2 years of this deal, Rasmus will be worth $8 million plus on the open market (even more as the cap grows) and this contract will be one of the best in the league.
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01-08-2020, 07:04 PM
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#108
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Already seeing comments on Twitter, etc that this is an overpayment. I think not.
Honestly, I think this will be a bargain by years 2-3. Andersson has the potential to be a #1 guy.
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Well, there is some risk to it. Any time you're banking on the player continuing to improve, there is always the risk that they won't. However, that risk is pretty low in this case, as he has been on a pretty solid and consistent upward trajectory.
Very good chance that he becomes a perennial top pairing guy. And if he does, this contract isn't just great, it's Josi-esque.
Even as a 2nd pairing guy, this is a really good contract. Great, even.
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01-08-2020, 07:05 PM
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#109
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Brodie has been playing really well, for some time now.
I would be much more open to Hamonic being moved.
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Hamonic as good as gone IMO.
I think we see the club add two quality forwards by the deadline.
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01-08-2020, 07:09 PM
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#110
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Hamonic as good as gone IMO.
I think we see the club add two quality forwards by the deadline.
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Do you think the Flames will move Hamonic for a forward?
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01-08-2020, 07:12 PM
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#111
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Franchise Player
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He's come a long way. At one point it looked like his conditioning was going to hold him back but he's proven to be a great young Dman. Hopefully he keeps improving and solidifies himself as a top pairing guy for years to come.
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01-08-2020, 07:13 PM
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#112
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01-08-2020, 07:16 PM
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#113
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First Line Centre
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Great signing. Actually think that Rasmus has more offensive ability than he's shown so far. Can see him putting up more points along with great defensive play in the next few years.
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01-08-2020, 07:17 PM
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#114
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Do you think the Flames will move Hamonic for a forward?
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I think it’s more likely he’s moved for picks in a separate deal.
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01-08-2020, 07:20 PM
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#115
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Brodie has been playing really well, for some time now.
I would be much more open to Hamonic being moved.
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When I said deal I meant signing. Guess it wasn't that clear though.
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01-08-2020, 07:22 PM
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#116
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trackercowe
I look forward to seeing the Oilers pay Nurse two million more than Andersson. For my money, he's a superior defenceman (one year younger as well).
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Almost 2 years young (well 18 months), but 2 draft seasons younger anyway.
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01-08-2020, 07:35 PM
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#117
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Franchise Player
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Good signing. I think Razzy has a ways to go before he starts commanding $8-10M as a UFA, but he’s definitely trending up and is already making strides to be a regular top 4 with top 2 potential.
Interesting to hear Treliving talk on 960 about him being part of the core. With him and Tkachuk both having dads who played in the NHL, you can tell these guys are comfortable being part of the leadership group.
I posted this when he got drafted:
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Originally Posted by tvp2003
I remember Treliving talking last year (?) about conditioning of junior players. If you have a guy who is close to maxing out his physical ability before they hit the NHL, their upside is obviously more limited. On the other hand, if you have a guy who hasn't physically matured yet and isn't known to be a gym rat -- but can still play -- that's the guy you want because you know he still has lots of room to improve.
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Glad to see it pay off. Great value for a second round pick!
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01-08-2020, 07:44 PM
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#118
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GGG
6 years buys 2 UFA years. Let’s assume number 1D trajectory
2 yrs 3.5
2 yrs 6
2yrs 10
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So 6.5 per is probably the high Scenario going year by year. 3 million per is probably if his development were to stall today. So 4.5 is roughly half way between the two potential outcomes. The only question is whether the 1 million extra spent the next 2 years good be better spent in the Gaudreau window.
Overall a good deal to keep cost certainty for the next 6 years on what could be a cornerstone player.
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I like the contract, but there is no way he will be a #1 defenseman, maybe he can become a #2 in time. Most likely a good 2nd pairing defenseman for most of this contract which would be great.
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01-08-2020, 07:50 PM
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#119
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
I like the contract, but there is no way he will be a #1 defenseman, maybe he can become a #2 in time. Most likely a good 2nd pairing defenseman for most of this contract which would be great.
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No way? None?
Were you saying the same thing of a 23 year old Gio?
It certainly seems like it could be possible. Not sure why you’re so adamant about limiting his upside. I personally think Valimaki more likely to be a #1 but Hanifin, Andersson and Valimaki all have the tools to be top pairing dmen.
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01-08-2020, 07:57 PM
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#120
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GOAT!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
I like the contract, but there is no way he will be a #1 defenseman, maybe he can become a #2 in time. Most likely a good 2nd pairing defenseman for most of this contract which would be great.
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lol he’s already able to play top pairing minutes and the contract hasn’t even started yet
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