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VladtheImpaler · 05-01-2016, 05:28 PM

Trade down 3-5 spots.

transplant99 · 05-01-2016, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Johnny's size needs to be offset? When has his size been a liability? He's about the one forward on this team who isn't sometimes a liability outside of Backlund.

Again, I'm not talking about a player to put on Gaudreau's line. I'm talking about a player to put on Bennett's line, away from Gaudreau.

Huh? This logic makes no sense.

If you had 40 minutes of a Gaudreau-calibre player instead of 20, you would be much more difficult to match up to on the road. Last change, the only real advantage of being a home team, gets taken away when all your D pairings have to face an elite offensive talent.

Size is a bonus on the priority list, not a prerequisite in my opinion.

The same playoffs that the Blackhawks, Penguins, and Red Wings have come out victorious in five of the previous nine years off pure skill instead of grinders...

Sure...but their skill guys (for a huge majority of the players) were also bigger guys. Not monsters, but rarely would you find a guy more than an inch under 6' tall and just about all them were at or above 200 lbs.

driveway · 05-01-2016, 05:32 PM

1. Chychrun 2. Juolevi 3. Sergachev

I don't think I want a forward even if Tkachuk or Dubois are there.

MrMastodonFarm · 05-01-2016, 05:43 PM

Hoping we go off the board a little here.

TheScorpion · 05-01-2016, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by driveway

I don't think I want a forward even if Tkachuk or Dubois are there.

...why?

Our greatest organizational need is on the wing.

442scotty · 05-01-2016, 06:11 PM

My god we sure don't need to waste this pick on a defenceman

Reggie Dunlop · 05-01-2016, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by driveway

1. Chychrun 2. Juolevi 3. Sergachev

I don't think I want a forward even if Tkachuk or Dubois are there.

There's certainly an argument to add another to the next grouping of future defensemen in the system (Kylington, Andersson, Hickey).

Still, a skilled forward with a bit of size/snarl would fit nicely. Alas, that option may not be available at pick 6.

dissentowner · 05-01-2016, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by transplant99

Sure...but their skill guys (for a huge majority of the players) were also bigger guys. Not monsters, but rarely would you find a guy more than an inch under 6' tall and just about all them were at or above 200 lbs.

Nylander projects to be 6'0 and 200lbs by the time he matures.

Cinephile · 05-01-2016, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheScorpion

...why?

Our greatest organizational need is on the wing.

I'm not advocating using a first round pick on it, but I'd argue our greatest organizational need is between the pipes.

TheScorpion · 05-01-2016, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cinephile

I'm not advocating using a first round pick on it, but I'd argue our greatest organizational need is between the pipes.

Well, yes, but I meant strictly in a top-10 pick scenario, a winger is our best option. I do agree with you, though.

Henry Fool · 05-01-2016, 06:41 PM

If you think about what a player would do for the Flames lineup, I think Logan Brown sounds super interesting, provided he's as good as Button now says.

Reggie Dunlop · 05-01-2016, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Henry Fool

If you think about what a player would do for the Flames lineup, I think Logan Brown sounds super interesting, provided he's as good as Button now says.

Brown=BIG!

Big=GOOD!

greentree · 05-01-2016, 06:43 PM

Nylander is the BPA on that list imo. But he leaves me sort of "meh." I picked Sergachev although I think Flames will choose Chychrun. Both are good sized dmen, not your stay at home types either. Neither would be playing with the big squad next season I reckon. I could still see Flames moving down and taking Jost or Brown and picking up a mid first. Possibly adding another mid first too, depending on what we might offer.

FlamesAddiction · 05-01-2016, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Henry Fool

If you think about what a player would do for the Flames lineup, I think Logan Brown sounds super interesting, provided he's as good as Button now says.

I know sometimes it gets overstated, but I am a little apprehensive about junior players that are freakishly big and dominate players in their age group, who are mostly smaller by a pretty big margin.

I haven't actually seen Brown play to know if he is a Dingman or a Getzlaf though.

Henry Fool · 05-01-2016, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Brown=BIG!

Big=GOOD!

I like the way you think!

He did look better than Nylander at the U18. Pretty much the only time I've seen them play.

driveway · 05-01-2016, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheScorpion

...why?

Our greatest organizational need is on the wing.

I hate the idea of drafting for organizational need, I am very, very into the idea of making one of our strengths (defensive prospects) better, and the opportunity to get the best defenseman in the draft seems to me a vastly better option than getting the 4th or 5th best forward.

Lanny_McDonald · 05-01-2016, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dissentowner

Nylander projects to be 6'0 and 200lbs by the time he matures.

And plays like he's 5'10 and 160 pounds. Flames don't need any more pretty players, they need some guys who will go to the dirty spots and score the dirty goals.

Henry Fool · 05-01-2016, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I know sometimes it gets overstated, but I am a little apprehensive about junior players that are freakishly big and dominate players in their age group, who are mostly smaller by a pretty big margin.

I haven't actually seen Brown play to know if he is a Dingman or a Getzlaf though.

I don't really know. Just guessing. Especially watching the playoffs, it feels like they need to get bigger out front or draft a defenseman if that's not possible. I'm encouraged by Button putting himself behind Brown so strongly. He sees him as a guy who figured his game out only rather late but is now going to rise.

Reggie Dunlop · 05-01-2016, 06:55 PM

I think the Flames have every intention of inserting Hunter Shinkaruk in the top six, perhaps as soon as this upcoming season. There's a reason why they traded for him.

But hey, if they end up taking Nylander, I'm okay with that too.

driveway · 05-01-2016, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by greentree

Nylander is the BPA on that list imo. But he leaves me sort of "meh." I picked Sergachev although I think Flames will choose Chychrun. Both are good sized dmen, not your stay at home types either. Neither would be playing with the big squad next season I reckon. I could still see Flames moving down and taking Jost or Brown and picking up a mid first. Possibly adding another mid first too, depending on what we might offer.

Just how would we accomplish this feat? Jost and Brown are both lottery picks, right? Top-14? So, if we're taking one of those players, we're trading down but staying in the top-14. The only teams who we could conceivably trade with and accomplish this are Arizona (7 and 20) and Carolina (13 and 21).

There's no way Arizona is sending us pick 20 to move up one spot, and I don't think there's a player at 6 who Carolina is going to be drooling over so much that they'll send us 13 and 21.